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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Superdrug person who menstruate

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Womanwhobleeds · 18/06/2020 16:36

Never posted on this board before, but nervous, but I’m furious.
Just bought some towels from Superdrug and the first line on the back of the packet is ‘A person who menstruates..’ I’m a woman ffs!
I shop in Superdrug all the time for their cruelty free stuff but no more!

Superdrug person who menstruate
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FromMarch2020 · 18/06/2020 20:21

"To be honest LST - Instead of worrying about women that don't want to be reduced to people that menstruate how about you work on your own 'people' skills...
LST Thu 18-Jun-20 18:23:31
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You tell others to be nice. Men don't have to put up with crap but we woman have to all the time.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 20:21

It doesn't take anything away from you, but might make that person feel better

Exactly

Another person may menstruate but identify as a man
I think you mean a woman

Er, has anyone disputed that trans men are biologically women?
You won't accept them as men, I get it.

Thisismytimetoshine · 18/06/2020 20:21

Gender is made up bollocks.

IcedPurple · 18/06/2020 20:21

@IcedPurple I think you don't know as much about gender as you think you

I couldn't give a toss about gender. It has nothing to do with menstruation. Only biological sex does. And only biological females menstruate.

There are no exceptions to this. Never have been and never will be.

mrsmummy111 · 18/06/2020 20:23

Oh I know.....who cares?!

The fact you’re even posting this thread and getting annoyed about it, is the EXACT reason they’ve decided to word it that way. Because people have started being annoyed about the wording of such things. Your post is by its very nature, completely and utterly contradictory. Who honestly cares?!!!!! Why do you find this so insulting????

FlamingoAndJohn · 18/06/2020 20:23

@yakkad

Honestly, most of you need to have a bloody (no pun intended) cup of tea and sit down.
Would you like to be a little more patronising?

If the packaging said ‘women, trans men and non binary people have 400 periods in their life time’ then I wouldn’t give a shit. It is not the addition or acknowledgement of trans men and non binary people I have a problem with, it’s the removal of women.

JoysOfString · 18/06/2020 20:23

I notice that those who don’t see a problem are not addressing any of the points being made about what we’re worried about.

Every time some explains why they find it worrying, they just get told to calm down, have a cup of tea or stop making a fuss about nothing.

That’s not an argument. If you want to argue with the points being made, you have to address them and engage with them. When you don’t do that it suggest you don’t have an argument, so you just fall back on shouting or being patronising.

It’s ok to realise you don’t have an argument and your position makes no sense. Or if you do have an argument, bring it on.

IcedPurple · 18/06/2020 20:24

Er, has anyone disputed that trans men are biologically women?

So what's the problem them?

If they are 'biologially women' then they ARE women. So what's with all this 'people who menstruate' nonsense?

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 20:25

So what's with all this 'people who menstruate' nonsense?

Because it includes trans men?

Thisismytimetoshine · 18/06/2020 20:26

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

So what's with all this 'people who menstruate' nonsense?

Because it includes trans men?

Who are biological women, therefore already included.
Round and round...
JoysOfString · 18/06/2020 20:28

I suppose since it does say people who menstruate, that means these products are not for those trans women who pretend to menstruate and ask women for tampons. I hope they;re ok with that.

IcedPurple · 18/06/2020 20:28

Because it includes trans men?

But like you said, they are biologically women. So what's the problem?

Also, what % of women are transmen, at a guess? Or rather, what fraction of 1% of women are transmen?

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 20:30

Round and round..

Yup, seems like it

Thisismytimetoshine · 18/06/2020 20:31

Now, that's an erudite argument...

stackthecats · 18/06/2020 20:32

I cannot believe the transphobia on this website. Let's hope none of your children have gender dysmorphia. You'll change your tunes then.

Interesting fact that no-one's commented on yet: it's not gender DYSMORPHIA, as stoned says: it's gender "dysphoria".

It's quite the telling Freudian slip, isn't it. Because "body dysmorphia", where people (young girls in particular) think they are ugly, and don't fit into social beauty standards, is treated as a mental illness: and those people are given counselling to help them accept their body as it is, and to come to terms with reality and the fact that they aren't ugly, they just don't necessarily look like they think they do in their heads. The vast majority of sufferers are women, and the idea of treatment is to help them to accept their normality and come to realise that they are wrong about how they perceive their bodies.

Whereas, if your "body dysmorphia" [sic] takes the form of believing that you are "born in the wrong body" because your body doesn't fit with the idea in your head BECAUSE GENDER, you are not helped to come to terms with your feelings and how they differ from your bodily reality. You are affirmed in that and set on a path to hormones and maybe surgery, and also given the idea that if other people don't also affirm the feelings in your head, it's them who are wrong about your body.

Tell me: why don't we tell people with BDD that they are ugly and fund cosmetic surgery for them ASAP? (And if we did, I might start presenting to medical professionals as having BDD as I've always felt I look less beautiful than I really am inside and it's genuinely caused me a lot of mental health problems throughout my life to feel so ugly.)

Why do we only do it when it's to do with sex/gender?

yakkad · 18/06/2020 20:33

No-one is erasing women. It is just inclusive language.
This is a good read if you can see though the red mist:

www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2020/06/15/the-myth-of-biological-sex/#4cda78df76b9

user1481840227 · 18/06/2020 20:34

Don't agree with this at all.
I didn't read the whole thread so sorry if i'm covering a point that someone else already made.

Periods are something that happens to women. That doesn't mean that all women have them, but they are a female issue.

As well as having to actually have the period, there are other issues, period poverty where some girls/women can't actually afford their sanitary products. The tampon tax and so on. I'm not in the UK but believe that will only be abolished there soon?? I mean come on that's ridiculous, it's 2020!!

Sometimes these issues become government issues...the tampon tax being a clear example. The group that the law/rules/taxes are affecting shouldn't be hidden or erased. Women have periods, so if periods are being discussed then the relevant group should be described...because then when legislation etc. needs to be changed or passed or so on then correct examples and statistics and so on can be given that are relevant to the specific group!!!

I mean if there was a government taskforce set up to research certain types of womens issues for example periods then who are the best people to ask?

1000 women in a certain age group where they more than likely are having periods.
1000 people of all genders even though the biological men are not having periods???????

yakkad · 18/06/2020 20:35

@FlamingoAndJohn maybe they had a word count limit?

JustJayne69 · 18/06/2020 20:35

I thought high doses of testosterone would stop that process.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 20:36

No-one is erasing women. It is just inclusive language.

Exactly, I'm not erased out of existence because we're becoming more inclusive, I'm still me and just as much as a woman as I ever was.

Babymamaroon · 18/06/2020 20:36

I can't understand why it's ok to insult many millions of women but heaven forbid insult the minority few. If you're born a woman and choose to become a man, absolutely no problem.

But biologically you still remain a woman so get over it.

Why should accommodations be made? I really am at a loss.

LemonadeAndDaisyChains · 18/06/2020 20:36

Top line was a quote and didn't bold

midgebabe · 18/06/2020 20:37

Anything with a title " the myth of biological sex" is clearly junk science

Actually, 8 think it's the one that claims that because we can't identify Male and female brains, sex doesn't exist

The poor author has clearly never had sex in his life, if he thinks the brain has any involvement what so ever

Biological sex is pretty identifiable by everybody in the planet

yakkad · 18/06/2020 20:37

@stackthecats you have no idea what you are talking about and you sound foolish.

Thisismytimetoshine · 18/06/2020 20:38

The myth of biological sex... I'll pass, thanks, yakkad
It's balls.