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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fallon Fox

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AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 10:13

Can't see a thread about this, which has enraged me this morning - Fox bragging (on a JKR tweet to a child!) about beating up women

Fallon Fox
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BlackBucketOfCheese · 17/06/2020 10:14

Despicable human.

LouHotel · 17/06/2020 10:14

Of course their proud. In plain site.

PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 17/06/2020 10:15

I saw that but was concerned it might be a troll account. Seems to have been going for a few years, though...so probably not. FFS.

Alwaystwomagpies · 17/06/2020 10:15

Good grief that’s awful

AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 10:16

How can this be allowed, defended even?? The "fuck off you old hag" comments to JKR are bad enough, but this is just beyond anything

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nauticant · 17/06/2020 10:20

It's archived here:

archive.fo/PohHR

If you read the thread on twitter you'll see some prominent trans people cheering Fallon Fox on.

MingeofDeath · 17/06/2020 10:20

Stunning, brave, inspirational...

nauticant · 17/06/2020 10:22

Plus the original tweet and responses is here:

mobile.twitter.com/FallonFox/status/1273024244956434438

RoyalCorgi · 17/06/2020 10:25

They're not even pretending any more, are they? Man admits he pretends to be a woman so he can get a thrill out of legitimately committing severe violence against women. These are the people we're supposed to welcome into our spaces.

SnuggyBuggy · 17/06/2020 10:26

People always manage to reveal themselves

KenDodd · 17/06/2020 10:27

Firstly let me get my facts straight.

Fallon Fox was born male?
Went through male puberty and transitioned as an adult?
Has fully transitioned including genital surgery?
Is legally a woman?
Is a professional fighter and fights natal women?
This is allowed in the sport so any man (including presumably Mike Tyson) who fully (?) transitioned to a women could fight natal women?

Kantastic · 17/06/2020 10:35

Fallon Fox was born male?
Went through male puberty and transitioned as an adult?
Has fully transitioned including genital surgery?
Is legally a woman?
Is a professional fighter and fights natal women?

All correct. Additionally, the woman whose skull Fox fractured was not told in advance that she'd be fighting a man. And she was viciously attacked by TRAs and had articles written about her calling her a sore loser for saying she'd never fought a woman who was that strong. And other female MMA fighters were aggressively dogpiled for saying they wouldn't fight males.

I don't think Fox competes any more - there's a brute strength advantage but very little actual MMA skill in Fox's case, according to Joe Rogan who knows a bit about MMA . Got beaten by a woman then retired to lick the resultant (ego) wounds.

What a contemptible excuse for a human being.

nauticant · 17/06/2020 10:36

Has fully transitioned including genital surgery?

Not necessarily. Going by the statistics as a whole, it's likely Fox has not had their male genitalia removed.

Is legally a woman?

I'm not sure whether the Gender Recognition Act 2004 has a counterpart in the US. I think it might be a more piecemeal approach of changing individual documents.

Kantastic · 17/06/2020 10:37

oh "aggressively dogpiled" above is understating it of course - it should be understood to encompass the usual TRA treatment of death threats, rape threats, real-life harassment and attempted professional cancellation.

NotTerfNorCis · 17/06/2020 10:43

God. If this is genuine... what awful people some TRAs are.

Men out of women's sports NOW!

NotBadConsidering · 17/06/2020 10:46

It’s like a typical thriller movie plot. The bad guy always wants to reveal themselves because it’s bubbling inside them, and it pisses them off that they have to hide it.

Any movie with a narcissistic villain, anyway.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 17/06/2020 10:47

Prick.

KenDodd · 17/06/2020 10:47

This is allowed in the sport so any man (including presumably Mike Tyson) who fully (?) transitioned to a women could fight natal women?

And this last question, is that also true?
If a person is legally a woman, they can compete in women's sport?

AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 10:55

Ken fairplayforwomen.com have a lot of resources on this subject, also WPUK had a big London meeting last year. Many sports are allowing trans women to compete according to chosen gender rather than biological sex including rugby and cricket. Many studies showing that transitioning has very little impact on advantages in strength etc acquired during male puberty

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 17/06/2020 10:57

I feel sick.

andyoldlabour · 17/06/2020 10:59

KenDodd

Unfortunately it is absolutely true. You may wish to Google the following names - Rachel McKinnon, Hannah Mouncy, Laurel Hubbard, Kate Weatherley, Maxine Blythine (plays for Kent Women's cricket team, has a batting average better than Don Bradman, was voted cricketer of the year last year).

NotBadConsidering · 17/06/2020 11:12

Maxine Blethyn played for their club side women’s team on the Saturday, and the men’s team on the Sunday of the same weekends.

RoyalCorgi · 17/06/2020 11:18

Good list, andy, and let's not forget Kelly Morgan, the amateur rugby player who once folded an opponent "like a deckchair":

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/49298550

TheEmpressMatilda · 17/06/2020 11:24

One day someone will properly expose the ways in which the incel movement has coopted TRA agendas for their own ends. (Assuming there’s any difference between TRA and incels to begin with.)

blubellsarebells · 17/06/2020 11:28

Whats the name of the fell runner who murdered their trainer?
Fallon fox is a piece of shit.

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