Emma Watson no longer believes in women

[JGACC]

Emma Watson has now tweeted in support of trans activists. I can't believe it.

Career. Career. Career.

Ironically I suspect also "Sex. Sex. Sex."

You may not realise that Eddie Redmayne's wife has had two children over the last 4 years while at 38 he is just getting into his prime as a male actor.

On the other hand Emma Watson works in an industry where it is very difficult to work while pregnant, female roles are limited and women are expected to quietly disappear once they hit 40.

Much easier to pretend that sex doesn't exist and toe the party line.

I'm not saying I agree with TWAW, although i feel mean saying that

Cloudy, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Children are being taught in schools that people can change sex. I have come across several people on twitter who seems to really believe that medical science has reached the point of being able to change people's sex. It's hard for us older realist to believe, but people are actually believing they can change sex and doctors and therapists are not telling them any different. And these sex-change operations are appalling, with a very low successful rate.

If you know some decent transwomen, who you suspect are same-sex attracted, then no doubt they are what we would call transsexuals. Just wanting to get on with it under the radar. Unfortunately they have now been subsumed. Something which many of them predicted would happen, as stonewall widened the umbrella of what it meant to be trans.

And to add to this, those transwomen who reject what’s been touted in their name, or object to TWAW are also vilified, cancelled, and called truscum by TRAs, many of whom are not trans themselves.

I'm not saying I agree with TWAW, although i feel mean saying that

Does it ever occur to you that it is mean to insist that TWAW?

I have come across several people on twitter who seems to really believe that medical science has reached the point of being able to change people's sex.

My most ‘oh shit, what ’ on this was a tweet where a young woman said re SRS “a penis is just an inside out vagina” as she understood it from a doctor.

I am happy to be explicit.
"Trans people are who they say they are and deserve to live their lives without being constantly questioned or told they aren’t who they say they are."
That is what Watson tweeted.
Trans people have no more right to be exempt from questions and disagreement than any other persons. The assertion that they do is a demand for obedience to a special class of people.
Transgenderism is the only dysmorphia that people claim the public has a responsibility to affirm.
We do not.
The most apt comparison is, of course, anorexia. The evil of affirming the delusions of an anorexic is no different from the evil of affirming the delusions of a transitioner.

#SheForHe

"You were great in 'Little Mentruators'''
mobile.twitter.com/moviefeminist/status/1270835399812882440

It's a shame that (some) people care so much what celebrities think about Big Issues. Actors, musicians, and athletes in particular aren't any more intelligent or better informed than anyone else. What makes their opinions worth any more than a person chosen at random?

This. Why should we take the words of an actress seriously? I've always been a bit sceptical re the adulation given to celebrities and the attention paid to their words. I don't follow their antics and many names are lost on me.

I did know that EW was a HP actress, and kept seeing her name as a feminist spokesperson. I wondered what qualified her -- she's so young. Not that youth disqualifies anyone. It's what has she bloody done to make her a spokeswoman for women?

And then, manhy years ago, I read some article about her having met Malala Yousafafzi and Malala was now her best buddy and her gushing declaration "I'm so happy that Malala has now said that she's a feminist! Fantastic!"

As if Malala needed her endorsement.
It was my eye-rolling moment regarding EW.

Celebrities are provided the microphone by media corporations in order to sell things because they are widely recognized.
Being widely recognized is all the qualifications they need to be selected for promotions.

@AlohaMolly - that's not as "tinfoil hat" as you might think. There has been evidence put forward that indicates the TRA movement was orchestrated as an advance movement towards acceptance of MAP (minor attracted persons, aka paedophiles/hebephiles)
I wish I had easy access to the manifesto wherein that is laid out, but I don't - I know it's on MN somewhere, but damned if I can remember where!
It's also laid out in this twitter thread by Jane Claire Jones twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1270632633052127232 which has been posted elsewhere, maybe even in this thread.

Your feelings are not wrong.

Trans are who they say they are.

I guess women saying they are a separate class from males are not.

Et tu, Emma? :(

Oh god on that twiitter thread there's a someone claiming that AFAB transwomen actually menstruate because they have a uterus.
When pushed to say what she means she says she has a uterus and was assigned female at birth but it doesn't feel right so she's like a trans transwoman.
Jesus Christ.

What kind of example do we set our kids when we can't have a nuanced debate, can't discuss or negotiate our differences, share our valid concerns, and reach understanding and relationship?

You might want to run that question past the people who have spent the last few years insisting on “no debate”. Clue: it isn’t the feminists.

Any word from Rupert Grint?

Surely he has the casting vote?

@backseatcookers

Yeah, you’re right the actors are entitled to state that they disagree with Rowling.

However none of them have asked for the TRAs to stop abusing her. And in Radcliffe’s case, he had the audacity to apologise if JKR’s comments ruined people’s enjoyment of the books he had no hand in writing. It is not his place to do that and it is grossly insulting.

You know what would have been really brave for these good young allies trans people to do? To state, simply: “JKR is entitled to her own opinion. I don’t Happen to agree with her on this issue. But I think the abuse she is getting for her views is utterly unacceptable.”

This. This this this.

Yup. Sums it up. Virtue signalling little white.

*shits not white. Ffs.

DIDNT ASK FOR SAME SEX SPACES TO BE SHARED

TWAW means they are. Already. Hospital wards, Prisons, Domestic violence shelters, Gym changing rooms, support groups, the WI and Girl Guides. M&S, Top Shop changing rooms.

All of these pretend to be single sex, but when you read their guidelines, rules and statements, actually admit males if they say they are women/girls.

Pretty much everywhere has already, quietly become mixed sex, you just won't find out until it's too late.

@ItsLateHumpty

If you know some decent transwomen, who you suspect are same-sex attracted, then no doubt they are what we would call transsexuals. Just wanting to get on with it under the radar. Unfortunately they have now been subsumed. Something which many of them predicted would happen, as stonewall widened the umbrella of what it meant to be trans.

And to add to this, those transwomen who reject what’s been touted in their name, or object to TWAW are also vilified, cancelled, and called truscum by TRAs, many of whom are not trans themselves.

A transsexual was taken to court last year for transphobia by a woman who is not trans.

Sorry if I am being naive and late to the game but can somebody please explain this to me. Are you saying that men are claiming to be trans to enter areas for women only for their own kicks?Or are you saying that all trans women and men should be segregated and use different changing rooms, toilets etc. I’m just trying to understand the whole picture.

Sex segregation was the norm, for the dignity and safety of women.

Quietly it has been moved to gender in many, many places.

There is no justification for gender segregation, unlike sex segregation.

Men have hidden in crawl spaces and septic tanks to watch women in toilets, invented fake arms, and mirror shoes to peer up dresses. Why wouldn't they do this? Not that that even matters - women have asked for single sex spaces to be maintained - why can't that request be honoured?

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

What has Emma Watson said about the abuse that was directed at JK Rowling?

Don't want to be one of those on here who says "do your own dirty work, you can find it for yourself!"
Gonna though.
Was about to answer you with benefit of doubt but saw your name and you're not new to these discussions.
It's the shit that's usually flung at me for just asking a question.

I couldn't find it for myself, which is why I asked. And I wanted to make sure that the reason I couldn't find it is because she hadn't said anything about it. I assume you didn't answer with a link to where she said how disgusting all the abuse is and how she condemns it is because she's said nothing about it. Which implies that she doesn't see anything wrong with hundreds of men telling JK Rowling to choke on their ladydicks and the other vile comments including death threats.

She is free to have her own opinions, but any decent human being would condemn such vile abuse and want to make it clear that they didn't agree with it.

I just had a look at Watson’s twitter - wall to wall everyone’s rights - apart from women.

Typical bubbled Hollywood luvvy.

Are you saying that men are claiming to be trans to enter areas for women only for their own kicks?Or are you saying that all trans women and men should be segregated and use different changing rooms, toilets etc. I’m just trying to understand the whole picture.

Under self ID 'sex' and 'trans' have no meaning. It's not even a question of pretending to be trans. If trans has no meaning anyone and everyone is trans and all spaces are mixed sex. The problem is not just that men will actively try to abuse women, but that women sometimes need access to single sex spaces because they are victims of trauma. Even a well meaning man who seems to pose no threat will be a problem.

Or are you saying that all trans women and men should be segregated and use different changing rooms, toilets etc.

I believe that in the vast majority of cases sex is completely irrelevant, but there are some situations where women are vulnerable and need access to single sex spaces e.g single sex rape crisis services.

You can argue all day about whether toilets should be single sex or mixed sex, but the focus in the UK is changes to legislation that would make it illegal for any space or service to be single sex.