Emma Watson no longer believes in women

[JGACC]

Emma Watson has now tweeted in support of trans activists. I can't believe it.

It’s notoriously mean of women not to centre men at all times.

No, I mean the threads on mn aren't rational discussions, they're just people wading through slaying others

^They haven't the foggiest idea what a woman is.*

Look outside - could be mist, could be a woman. Impossible to tell.

Aaargh...

Sorry I meant trans threads!!!

Should also say "Thanks, Mouse.
I actually feel faint with frustration.

Yes, so many mean people who believe that :-

you can dress as you wish,
wear as much or little makeup as you wish,
wear high heels or none,
work in child care or banking, according to your skills interests and talents,
you can sleep with whomever you wish, as long as the other person fully and knowledgeably consent to sleep with you,
be as butch or male presenting or feminine or pretty as you wish.

but you cannot change sex.

And the disadvantages that one sex experiences due to biology dictated before you are even born are real.

And, therefore the people of that sex group (women- in case it isn't obvious ) have rights which cannot be given away by any person in that sex group or outside of it.

Standing up for women's sex based right ≠ transphobia

Emma Watson and her ilk make me ashamed to be a woman, they're an embarrassment how they claim to be feminists but are so desperate for male approval that they believe the cultish thinking that a man can magically become a woman just by saying so. Women like these make other young women look utterly idiotic. How utterly naive do you have to be to think that anyone, regardless of their being trans or not, is always exactly who they say they are. Utterly vacuous and privileged wokescolds. Actresses, models and other influencer morons who've made their money through their looks abandoning women at the bottom rung of society, who've had to live in homeless shelters and rape shelters, telling them off for daring to care about their own existence, all so they can continue to pout for money unimpended. I hate them all.

I have no doubt whatsoever that Emma Watson, if born in a different era, would have been anti-women's suffrage, because it's just not ladylike for women to make such selfish demands of having their voices heard. Eat sh*t, Emma.

The personal attacks on her, leave it out please.

She is a young-ish woman, who is allowed to make mistakes like everyone else.

She is working in an industry that is white male dominated and no doubt, has to make compromises on that basis.
I do. I don't really dicuss this in real life, as it may have consequences for my work.

No cause is helped, by diminishing yourself to the level of the opposition. If they go low we go high.

Note to self: never read trans threads. There are so many mean people in here

And yet here you are, still posting. Why is that?

30 - 30? Old enough to have more sense.

At that age, I was managing a team in the City, had 2 degrees and postgrads, owned my own home (earned through graft, not 'acting' - but 'an industry that is white male-dominated' nonetheless), was married and had lost my dad.

Personal attacks? She reacts to her mentor and supposed friend's testimony of domestic abuse and sexual assault by supporting the side that are threatening to rape her friend. For her career and for wholeness. You don't get much more treacherous than that

That would be 'wokeness'. Not much wholeness there

She is a young-ish woman, who is allowed to make mistakes like everyone else.

I agree, but she is also a 30 year old UN Ambassador for women.

Evanna Lynch sounded as though she hadn't given the matter much thought, but still managed to show genuine compassion for JKR.

Emma Watson's response didn't engage with anything that JKR had said, which is a bit odd given her level of education.

To be fair to Emma, until you properly look into it and do your research, TWAW seems kind and supportive. In many cases it still is. I just wish she'd been a bit better at how she expressed it.

I agree Evanna did a much better job, but was really worried about coming across poorly (and you see the abuse she still got!) Emma could've done a lot more.

@EarlofEggMcMuffin

The personal attacks on her, leave it out please.

She is a young-ish woman, who is allowed to make mistakes like everyone else.

She is working in an industry that is white male dominated and no doubt, has to make compromises on that basis.
I do. I don't really dicuss this in real life, as it may have consequences for my work.

No cause is helped, by diminishing yourself to the level of the opposition. If they go low we go high.

I totally agree with leaving out the personal attacks on her as an actor or a person. We only demean ourselves by resorting to the same sort of personal attacks that the Koolaid Krew do.

I don't think young women, or for that matter young men, are thinking this way because they all are desperate for male approval or whatever.

Most of them really want to be fair, and they see this as fair. They don't have the insight to see the potential legal problems, the experience to see how it could be abused, and they also tend to think it is supported by reserch and medical evidence.

I mean, how many people here have teenage girls who are in a similar position? They aren't misogynists, they are just young.

I find it staggering that Emma Watson thought that her little soundbite was an appropriate response to the slayer of an essay that JK put out there. I'd understand more if she'd said what she said before JK spoke out properly, but coming after... Well, it felt either disrespectful or imbecilic. No attempt to engage with any of the arguments. No condemnation of the abuse. Just cultish wankery. "Trans people are who they say they are." I presume she accepts other people's estimations of themselves in all other circumstances too. Donald Trump? Definitely a very stable genius who can medical.

I mean, how many people here have teenage girls who are in a similar position?

She 30 ffs, she’s no more a teenager than I am!

Yes, Lordfrontpaw, she's 30.
I had lots of experience at that age, but was probably still in thrall to men. I suspect that I might have been on the side of "kind".

I agree Dances, it is treacherous. But I still refute anyone's right to attack her personally, to talk down to her, to tell her to "eat sh*t".

While we are making Emma a target, the people who actually deserve our ire are laughing away at the dissent they've stoked among women.

Emma Watson is not the problem.
Why do we expect her to get her response absolutely spot on?

For instance, what about the responses from the 4 male directors of the HP movies? (I havent looked, so they may have said something bang-on, but there's no thread about them on here).

nope, not going to collude with ganging up on one youngish woman caught up in this even though I completely disagree with her comment.

She 30 ffs, she’s no more a teenager than I am!

That's really not the point, people know their teen daughters have similar views and it has nothing to do with them throwing omen under the bus or being woman haters etc. This assumption that anyone who take that viewpoint has those kinds of motives is simply false.

many 30 year olds seem to think similarly, in any case, the line where more women are automatically skeptical seems to be closer to 35 or even 40. Watson is also unmarried, not a mother, and quite young in a lot of her ideas and opinions, from an upper middle class background. Probably she's been very sheltered in many ways.

I would have been surprised if she was GC.

To be fair, I was writing anti-feminist polemic when I was 30. Actually arguing that women should not have the vote.

I will criticize her for her tone deaf response as a professing Feminist, but I won't judge her too harshly, even though it is women like her and me in my former life that maintain the oppression of all women. She likely just doesn't want sexualized threats by the thousand herself, and I can't blame her for that.

Radcliffe and Redmayne however, are part of the male privileged class, and can fecking do one.