Pro-woman is just a euphemism for transphobic

[Littlemeadow123]

Exactly that.

Transgender people are not eroding our rights as women. Although, the people making such spiteful and ignorant comments and talking about trying to stop them getting recognized as women are eroding their rights to be accepted, respected equal. Do you all honestly think that by speaking out AGAINST transgender people, you are going to be declared as heroes?

And what happened to be kind?

@Littlemeadow123

Be kind is what you say to children about how to behave around others

So you are suggesting fhat the whole #bekind thing was a load of rubbish? That we shouldn't treat other people kindly, or with respect? That if someone lives their life in a way that we don't like then we should respond with as much hate as we want? Wow.

Would you respond the same way to a woman who wanted to start living as a man? Would you have the bollocks to say the same things to a transgender person's face? I doubt it.

What was it post 10? Yes #bekind was a fucking load of rubbish which came about after a domestic abuser was caught, didnt like the shame and killed themselves. Unusually that domestic abuser was an adult born woman. Most abusers are adult born men. Abusers dont change their ways and there are too many of them caught up in the trans movement. So no thank you to #bekind - I would prefer to #besafe.

Now I'll read the remainder of the thread.

How can we protect non-trans women and girls in female spaces against those (not all) transwomen who are violent or sexually assualt/rape?

@thisenglishlife

How can we protect non-trans women and girls in female spaces against those (not all) transwomen who are violent or sexually assualt/rape?

You don't need to say non-trans women. Just women is fine.

We should keep female spaces for females.

@Lastrolo

I'd love to see a thread like that and will be happy to contribute.

Thisenglish female spaces are designed to serve all females, that's the purpose of them. There is no way to provide safety, privacy, dignity and inclusion for all female people once it becomes a mixed sex space. It isn't possible. The GRA was an attempt at trying, and it's been proven now beyond all doubt that if any males are given entitlement then the door will be forced to its fullest extent and here we are - any male, with any appearance, any agenda, invokes self identification protection simply by walking into a female space where females are undressed and vulnerable, and cannot be challenged.

The only way to meet all needs is to provide mixed sex or gender neutral facilities - and there are women on this thread saying they would gladly use them - while continuing to provide female only single sex spaces for those females unable to use mixed sex spaces.

Any other approach simply excludes and punishes vulnerable females who cannot conform to or prioritise the wishes of any male in their vicinity.

Bore off

@Redannie118

Your post has brought me to tears, I am so sorry for how you have suffered, and I wish you all the luck in the world with your recovery. I hope you dont mind, I have screenshotted your post

Womens bodies are so much more complicated, and brutal, than mens. Whether that is a woman that goes through pregnancy and birth, to a woman that experiences premature menopause. We are dominated by a very complex balance of hormones that affect every part of our body (and sometimes our mind). We literally have a life cycle, each stage with it's own set of problems or side effects. Periods, PCOS, endometriosis, pregnancy, birth, caesarean sections, breastfeeding, menopause, all experiences that somebody born a male cannot experience.

And yet they have such a huge bearing on our lives, our health is intertwined with our brain and our emotions.

Not to even start on how it all affects our relationships, employment, treatment by others etc.

I don’t post on these threads but I do read them.

I, as a biological woman, have been raped, attacked, verbally attacked, intimidated by and abused physically and emotionally by biological males. The statistics show that the greatest threat to biological women are biological males.

Trans men and trans women are at risk... from biological males.

Because of the trauma I have endured from biological males, both on a personal level and on an intellectual level due to the overwhelming statistics, I will never support self ID, because it is so open to abuse from
Biological males.

The problem isn’t women denying trans women access to their safe spaces, the problem is that biological men are so violent that safe spaces are needed. Society needs to evolve radically so biological men are no longer a threat, but that will never happen because that would involve removing their power.

To paraphrase JK Rowling, I stand with trans people against bigotry and violence. I believe fervently that no one should suffer at the hands of another... but until something changes to stop the pervasiveness of the predatory nature of biological men, I will never feel unable to surrender women’s only spaces.

I don’t know how that aligns with the beliefs of the women arguing so eloquently here, I’m not clever enough to get my head round all of it.

Thank you @Wolfgirl and @Michelleoftheresistance

Redannie you are an amazing woman 💐.

Being female means something.

How fucking dare they reduce it to nothing more than a costume to facilitate and embolden their delusions and fetishes.

Abusive men, authoritarian men, have declared Feminists man haters in the past, and we see now the abusive men are declaring women's rights to be anti-trans. Usually accompanied with death and rape threats as well as notes from their boner.
We see you.

Oh. Do. Fuck. Off. OP.

So conversely, “pro trans” must be “anti woman”?

You seem quite enervated, OP.

Hot bath and an early night.

Lol @pertella!

@DomDoesWotHeWants

You seem quite enervated, OP.

Hot bath and an early night.

Don't forget the vegan bath bomb

@Redannie118 and @AlohaMolly

for your battle scars. Women are amazing, and yes, we all bloody matter.

AlohaMolly you get it. I hope you keep posting.

And what happened to be kind?

Because I don't identify with the female gender mate. I'm still of the female sex however.

Lol, I missed that op replied to my comment yesterday. Expected that this goady thread wouldn't last the night.

"13:10 Littlemeadow123

Yep. That's right. You just be kind to the people who are like you and only the people who are like you.

Did you just 'All lives matter' feminism on the feminist board

Vitriol we're feminist IMG wrong obviously.

*feministing

Redannie118 - what a warrior you are. Your courage and strength should be celebrated. I wish you health and happiness in your continued struggle. Your body is not that of Frankenstein’s monster, but the banners of hard-fought battles.

Pro woman means exactly what it says. Like many other words, the meaning of those particular ones cannot be changed by throwing a tantrum at them.

This seems apt for this thread and all our new friends furiously posting here to tell us how much they don't care.

The OP still not popped back, then?

I'm sure they'll be along later, I'm sure they want to be kind and respond to us instead of ignoring us.