Pro-woman is just a euphemism for transphobic

[Littlemeadow123]

Exactly that.

Transgender people are not eroding our rights as women. Although, the people making such spiteful and ignorant comments and talking about trying to stop them getting recognized as women are eroding their rights to be accepted, respected equal. Do you all honestly think that by speaking out AGAINST transgender people, you are going to be declared as heroes?

And what happened to be kind?

So you are suggesting fhat the whole #bekind thing was a load of rubbish? That we shouldn't treat other people kindly, or with respect? That if someone lives their life in a way that we don't like then we should respond with as much hate as we want? Wow

Where on earth have you got ‘respond with hate’ from?

Can you answer dicks question please

Do you think that there should be girls’ and women’s single sex sports, scholarships, business funding/training opportunities, facilities and services?

OP is not being kind

You just be kind to the people who are like you and only the people who are like you

To be fair, that's 51% of the population, so quite a good strike rate.

Transgender people are not eroding our rights as women. Although, the people making such spiteful and ignorant comments and talking about trying to stop them getting recognized as women are eroding their rights to be accepted, respected equal.

You only seem to be worried about the variety of 'transgender people' who are in fact male?

What about the other ones, who definitely don't want to be 'recognised as women'?

They never seem to matter very much to you guys, oddly.

That if someone lives their life in a way that we don't like then we should respond with as much hate as we want? Wow

Being pro-woman isn't about hating transwomen, you're being deliberately inflammatory. Its about protecting women's spaces and sports from a minority of self identifying people who will use it for their own advantage and give zero fucks about how they are shitting all over the right of people to have single sex spaces for good biological and safety reasons.

OP, have you actually done any reading around this subject at all? Do you understand the gender critical feminist position? If so, are you able to articulate what it is exactly that you object to?

What happened to be kind??

Ask these guys...

Honestly, yes, I do think #BeKind is a load of rubbish, because hashtags promoted by people who then refuse to accept that women deserve kindness, and not just obligated to perform it, are a steaming pile of manipulative shite.

OP do you think it is “kind” for people to police my traumatic response to being raped and the triggers which I continue to suffer from?

And no, I'm not anti-woman. Recognizing that not everyone who identifies as a woman is born with a vagina is not anti-woman.

Being pro woman means that you support each other. It doesn't mean that you turn on others simply because they were not born anatomically like you.

@AngeloMysterioso

What happened to be kind??

Ask these guys...

And yes, exactly.

I don't see many people being kind to women, OP.

Why don't you go over to Twitter and tell the men who are telling JKR to 'suck/choke on a dick' to be kind.

Angelo has posted a useful list for you to start with.

I genuinely don't care if you think being pro woman means supporting men. Same song, different verse. You are the drumbeat of the patriarchy. You serve your masters, and we don't have to comply with your diktats.

Try again.

Transgender people are not eroding our rights as women.

@IWantT0BreakFree

I have done loads of research into this issue over the years. Therefore, I was very well equipped to support my sister when she told me that she was transgender a little while ago.

Ah yes anatomy!

So do I need to share a women only space with somebody with a penis?

Do you think it’s Kind that a young teenage girl in scotland who was raped by 4 men cannot be assured that her rape crisis councillor will not be male bodied?

Do you think it’s kind that a women who is a victim of Female Genital Mutilation Is told to change the language she uses to Describe the atrocity that happened to HER body?

Do you think it’s kind that women who hold gender critical views are subjected to rape threats and told to ‘suck dick’?

There are an awful lot of people on Twitter being the exact opposite of ‘kind’ to JK Rowling.

There is a difference between the terms “equal” and “identical”.

We are all equal. We are not all the same. It’s ok to have noticed that.

And no, I'm not anti-woman. Recognizing that not everyone who identifies as a woman is born with a vagina is not anti-woman

I recognise that. I don’t recognise that it means that there is no conflict between my sex based rights and the wishes of trans women to be treated identically in all circumstances. Of course the latter affects sex based rights so there has to be a conversation about it. I believe that conversation should happen without women being threatened and abused for their opinion. Do you agree OP?

"Be kind" is a silencing technique. It means "sit down and shut up and don't argue back."

"Listen respectfully to your adversary and respond to their arguments, not their personality, do not construct straw-man misrepresentations of their position, and above all, do not threaten to rape them with barbed-wire covered baseball bats" - now that, I can get behind.

But a simple minded call to "be kind"? Nope, not playing that game.

little

Can you answer dicks question...its ever such a good one

I’ll answer one of yours...if you have one

I’m very fence sitty so its might not be a good answer

I'll post it again to be helpful. I'm kind like that.

Do you believe women should continue to have all the rights they currently have in law?

& I'm sure we all wish your sibling all the best, OP.

simply because they were not born anatomically like you

Don't talk in this silly language.
What you are asking us to do is be kind to males.

Transwomen are not born anatomically like us because they are MALES. We, on the other hand, are females. They are of a different sex to us.

They have no business in feminism, and they certainly have no business being centred in feminism.

I wish them well but have literally no responsibility towards them. Male problems, men can deal with it. Have you found the male equivalent to Mumsnet yet to scold for lack of male kindness? Or is this just a special for us girls?