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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Just when you think you couldn’t love JK Rowling more...

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Deltoids1 · 06/06/2020 22:57

She posts this.

Just when you think you couldn’t love JK Rowling more...
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Clymene · 08/06/2020 10:51

I have to say that being told to educate myself by someone who is under 30 and probably funded by the bank of mum and dad makes me rage.

No wonder all my university lecturer friends despair of their students!

DickKerrLadies · 08/06/2020 10:52

twitter.com/clue/status/1269584227995201540

Makers of period tracking app talking about how women are more than just their uteruses (uteri?) and saying it's just the same as how we say firefighter now. Erm, ok then...

I'm a little confused by this as I use the Clue app and it states that it is 'a female-led team'. So it's ok for them, but not for JR Confused

Aesopfable · 08/06/2020 10:58

Link to real time follower count, it's going up and down,but by tiny amounts. I don't think it's the Shazam! they were aiming for..

Twitter not able to remove followers fast enough?

Lamahaha · 08/06/2020 11:11

@Clymene

I have to say that being told to educate myself by someone who is under 30 and probably funded by the bank of mum and dad makes me rage.

No wonder all my university lecturer friends despair of their students!

Right? People whose entire life experience beyond school seems to be on the screen of a phone! Grin
Clymene · 08/06/2020 11:23

Indeed. At least I had the sense to realise there was quite a lot of stuff I knew fuck all about when I was a student.

Flootered · 08/06/2020 11:36

Someone like Ricky Gervais needs to wade in now too. I'm so disappointed with his back peddling

Heygirlheyboy · 08/06/2020 11:42

Yes I've looked up RG too but nothing...yet.. How does a tw's birth cert say female?!

Fanthorpe · 08/06/2020 11:52

It’s a ‘legal fiction’ Heygirl something which is legal but a known falsehood.

Heygirlheyboy · 08/06/2020 11:54

It seems crazy to see it beside hospital and date of birth is that a female was born... Confused

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 08/06/2020 11:57

@Flootered

Someone like Ricky Gervais needs to wade in now too. I'm so disappointed with his back peddling
I assumed he threw in the “I identify as an 8 year old girl” character in an episode of Afterlife as a quite deliberate attempt to highlight the lunacy on display. Didn’t realise he’d backtracked on previous comments.
Flootered · 08/06/2020 12:17

Yeah Ginger I think it was back in December he had a few funny and sarcastic tweets totally backing JK and highlighting the lunacy, brought up sports etc. When pushed though he said it was a joke and he thinks trans women and women.

merrymouse · 08/06/2020 12:25

"Makers of period tracking app talking about how women are more than just their uteruses (uteri?) and saying it's just the same as how we say firefighter now. Erm, ok then..."

They are really tying themselves up in knots.

Presumably they have also eradicated racism by refusing to talk about race...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/06/2020 12:28

Makers of period tracking app talking about how women are more than just their uteruses (uteri?) and saying it's just the same as how we say firefighter now. Erm, ok then...

ODFOD 🙄 silly twits.

Beamur · 08/06/2020 12:31

I wonder how many men need to use period tracking apps...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/06/2020 12:35

keep seeing comments like “talk to some trans people and see how they feel” but is anyone asking transmen if they are happy to be called “menstruators” or “cervix havers” or anything like that. Because if woman is triggering surely referring to transmen by their female biology is triggering too, rather than inclusive.

Yes, wouldn't "women and trans men" be more inclusive? Or "women and some trans people"? To include non binaries. I think it's male people and their allies who most want to force the "menstruator" label on women and girls.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 08/06/2020 12:39

Would you mind if we just put all you folk over here in the menstruation reservation so we can have your landscape for our own purposes. Oh you don't like that. Well look how awful you are. And do you mind if we hitch our trans bandwagon on to BLM because not getting our way is just as devastating as fearing getting shot by the people sworn to protect you

Just read this comment on The Times article. This has to be a mumsnetter.

Lamahaha · 08/06/2020 12:40

Well someone upthread asked about Jonathan Ross and his daughter.
I offer you this, compliments of the Daily Mail:

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8398173/Jonathan-Ross-daughter-Honey-23-SLAMS-J-K-Rowling-famous-father-defended-her.html

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/06/2020 12:40

No one wants to call transwomen “sperm producers” or “testicle havers”

To be honest I think that's why they're not clamouring and jumping up and down to be included by "people with a prostate" etc in men's health orgs. They, like FTMs could, are perfectly capable of accessing the health information they need by knowing that biologically it applies even though they don't identify with their biological sex. It's only women who have to be dehumanised to our bodily functions like this.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/06/2020 12:42

23 year old thinks her dad is wrong. I don't agree with my dad on lots of things now, let alone at 23!

Botsy · 08/06/2020 12:46

And me at 40! Though he thinks anything to do with self-ID and women's sports is simply ridiculous so suddenly we have more in common Grin

Floisme · 08/06/2020 12:52

'When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.'
Mark Twain I believe. But people seem to reach maturity a lot later these days.

SunsetBeetch · 08/06/2020 12:54

Jane Clair Jones has got her marking pens out for the Bloody Stupid. Period. letter

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1269888188786577409?s=19

MarkRuffaloCrumble · 08/06/2020 12:59

You need to join gender critical closed FB groups. There are several. There it's the main topic and people really let loose

Nope. I did this and was put on a list by some TRA nutter who had joined the group solely to get screenshots and send them to the employers of anyone in the group to try and get them fired! Had to change my FB name and URL to get the fuckers off my back. Luckily I’m self employed so they wouldn’t have been able to get me fired, but could have fucked up my business. They’re cunts. The lot of them.

merrymouse · 08/06/2020 13:00

mobile.twitter.com/vagina_museum/status/1269584790178717696

The Vagina museum is tying itself in knots.

"Trans 👏 rights 👏 do 👏 not 👏 erase 👏sex 👏"

Except for when the people campaigning for trans rights insist that legislation protecting sex based rights is removed.

"Gender discrimination: e.g. catcalling. No one checks the contents of your underwear before catcalling, usually it is feminine presenting people who are targeted"

They honestly think women can avoid abuse by not being 'feminine presenting'? How does one do that exactly, as a woman? Wear a false moustache?

mummmy2017 · 08/06/2020 13:03

So just because I need to know, if medical students get taught about woman's internal organs and men's internal organs, what do they do when a transpersons case notes are produced.
I mean we all laughed about the man who has had babies, did they go private just so they were not put in the female maternity wards

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