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JK Rowling threatening legal action

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TheLashKingOfScotland · 29/05/2020 16:52

A TRA and Canadian Green Party rep has made libellous comments about JK regarding her position on trans rights and her suitability to be trusted around children.
JK asked her to retract them or they would hear from JK's lawyers. Currently they are digging in. Seemingly unaware that JK has pursued legal cases based on Twitter comments before and that it isn't acceptable to make unfounded statements about people.
It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
It could have wider reaching consequences if certain sectors see they can't just make unfounded accusations any more.

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nettie434 · 29/05/2020 23:51

What did the tweets say? Does anyone have a screenshot of them?

Do you mean JKR's tweet Gingerkittycat? If you look upthread at Fannycann's post at 17.53 on Friday, you will see that she just had in the words of FC 'an epic copy and paste fail' about the person who attacked Maria McLachlan in Hyde Park. She quite reasonably deleted the tweet because it was included in a reply to a father who tweeted a drawing his daughter had done and obviously he would want to keep the reply.

Then the pile on began. I had never heard of Nicola Spurling before, Bore, but she seems to be a member of the Green Party in Canada. Floral seems to have done a bit more investigating.

BatShite · 29/05/2020 23:52

Well yeah.

I have now seen an excuse that its transphobic because she was quoting a transphobic article apparently. Although any article about the incident will have had the same quotes surely?

And of course, those unfamiliar with this are likely to look at their screenshots, post the quoted words to find this supposed horrible transphobia. Read what actually happened (even moreso if they believed the TRA version of Maria being some kind of ninja god who somehow managed to get poor Tara prosecuted for NOTHING!!!!!) And bang. Another peaked.

Mytholmroyd · 29/05/2020 23:55

All power to her elbow - what a woman! Wine

Campervan69 · 29/05/2020 23:57

She's been radicalised online. Quick! Shut down Mumsnet! That damn radicalisation portal.

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BatShite · 30/05/2020 00:03

Do these people ever actually think about the shite they post..radicalised online indeed. Because she was reading a story about a TRA who assaulted someone, and wuted said TRAs own words. I know the bar for transphobia is ridiculously low, but this i one of the most nonsensical accusations I have seen..

BatShite · 30/05/2020 00:03

wuted?! quoted.
Going to need to bite the bullet soon and actually buy a new keyboard.

YappityYapYap · 30/05/2020 00:10

A man tweeted her showing her his 9 year olds painting. She then replied to it and put a quote about a trans issue including the quote 'fuck up some terfs'. I mean come on, don't defend that. I couldn't care less that she 'misgendered' someone in the tweet, it's more concerning for me that she is writing random quotes and thoughts on unrelated tweets. A 9 year olds painting no less. That is just off the grid strange and perhaps there's a ring of truth that she is behaving bizarrely

BatShite · 30/05/2020 00:13

But..am not really understanding the kickoffs given it was deleted extremely quickly, she was not actually talking to a 9 year old, and people do make mistakes. Of course if it had been left, or was something that made even a slight bit of sense as possibly on purpose..then yeah.

Accusing someone of being a danger to kids because they pressed the wrong button their keyboard is a bit..OTT.

Datun · 30/05/2020 00:21

She put a cut-and-paste on her tweet by mistake. Something that she'd obviously been dealing with at the same time.

It was an instant error, that she rectified immediately. No child is reading that tweet.

It's the fact that it was a transwoman telegraphing to the world that they were going to target some women in London, and was then subsequently convicted of battery that TRAs seem so incensed by. As if JK Rowling shouldn't have an opinion about it.

FloralBunting · 30/05/2020 00:26

Yappity, you think she deliberately shared a transactivists boast that they were going to 'fuck up some terfs' with the 9 year old and that it wasn't a C&P fail as claimed?

Do, please share your insights about why she would do that. I'm sure we're all eager to hear another internet random attempt to discredit a woman who won't comply. There's so little of that sort of thing these days.

TehBewilderness · 30/05/2020 00:26

The bit Jo Rowling received and accidentally pasted into a response to a child was not entirely accurate since it referred to the convicted assaulter of Maria MacLachlan as a feminist.
The first time I recall the Borg going after her was when she liked a tweet posted by a Feminist regarding women's rights. Something I considered perfectly normal behavior for a woman on twitter turned out to be outrage fodder for transgender advocates.

TheLashKingOfScotland · 30/05/2020 00:30

The accusations against JK weren't in response to her accidental cut and paste. 'Nicola' made her libellous tweet about JK on the 27th. It was only on the 29th that JK accidentally tweeted about when Maria was attacked.
TRAs are trying to conflate the two to imply that Nicola was referring to JK's cut and paste. But Nicola's comment was on an article about JK's new book for children.
Hilariously Nicola seems to think JK saying they're taking this offline means JK wants to speak to them offline. When it obviously means JK has given them the chance to retract their libel and since they haven't done it, JK has now passed it to their lawyers offline.

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TehBewilderness · 30/05/2020 00:32

Thank you I was not aware of that. The twitter storm did not make that clear.

BatShite · 30/05/2020 00:34

The accusations against JK weren't in response to her accidental cut and paste. 'Nicola' made her libellous tweet about JK on the 27th. It was only on the 29th that JK accidentally tweeted about when Maria was attacked.

Ah right. Just totally out of the blue then seemingly. Could make the tiniest bit of sense of timing if they were claiming it was because 'she swore at a 9 year old' (which obviously didn't happen but..TRA think) but otherwise, even more baffling.

NotBadConsidering · 30/05/2020 00:36

Yes there are two separate issues. The cut and paste error is being used as demonstrative of Rowling’s apparent transphobia because as we all know, pointing out the violent acts of some transwomen in the name of trans activism is transphobic...

Datun · 30/05/2020 00:37

TRAs are trying to conflate the two. Why? They often appear to be completely unaware that other people can read.

Hilariously Nicola seems to think JK saying they're taking this offline means JK wants to speak to them offline. When it obviously means JK has given them the chance to retract their libel and since they haven't done it, JK has now passed it to their lawyers offline.

Yes I saw that. She seemed to think they were going to have a little chat via DM and was welcoming it.

I also saw JK say that this sort of nonsense happens to her at least three times a week. Poor woman.

TheLashKingOfScotland · 30/05/2020 00:37

The anonymous anime accounts are all encouraging Nicola and don't seem to realise that actually making libellous comments can have consequences.
Like a PP, I don't know which jurisdiction this case would fall under. Regardless, any case that tests accusations of 'attacking trans people' simply for stating scientific fact, will be beneficial for us all. TRAs have been able to hide between accusations of 'attacks' ; 'literal violence' and 'transphobia' for too long when what they actually mean is someone disagreed with them.

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BatShite · 30/05/2020 00:42

They often appear to be completely unaware that other people can read.

They might catch out someone like me, who just assumed they were related Blush However, even when assuming it was the copy/paste thing, the accusing side still came off as quite ridiculous. Which is bviously a totally unusual sitation.

ItsLateHumpty · 30/05/2020 01:10

Just for background reading re Nicola Spurling of the BC Green Party (from 2017)

www.citynews1130.com/2017/04/18/green-party-candidate-outed-tv-news-broadcast/

From the article:

“Nicola Spurling isn’t pointing any fingers, preferring to call it an “unfortunate miscommunication” but says there are risks to outing any transgender person.

“Trans people face a lot of discrimination in the form of bullying, violence, being denied employment, being denied housing and being inappropriately questioned on a variety of issues surrounding the transition process,” she tells NEWS 1130. “And then there is just the general feeling of being unwelcome in society. A lot of people feel like you shouldn’t exist and that is something trans people have to deal with on a daily basis.”

Global News ran a story last night spotlighting four transgender women hoping to become MLAs, including Morgane Oger of the NDP, Stacey Piercey of the Liberals, and Veronica Greer and Nicola Spurling of the BC Green Party.”

MoleSmokes · 30/05/2020 01:12

A well thought-out riposte to JK from the Trans School of Literary Criticiism: 🤡

"You wrote harry potter at the perfect time, you were not skilled enough at writing to convey your horrible TERF opinions into your writing. Those books are good in spite of you, not because of you. Scientists that understand gender is a spectrum burn your books."

archive.is/WO0re

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Datun · 30/05/2020 01:13

Crikey, shall may have to buy another lighter 🤣

Datun · 30/05/2020 01:13

*she may

ItsLateHumpty · 30/05/2020 01:15

I’m guessing that’s why N Spurling is digging in re the ‘not safe around children’ tweet. Everyone in entitled to an opinion. Even if it’s wrong. And libellous. Opps.

Regardless, any case that tests accusations of 'attacking trans people' simply for stating scientific fact, will be beneficial for us all.

Indeed Brew

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 30/05/2020 01:49

Yes, I agree too - but only in the hope that it will show up the TRA attacks for how ridiculous they are. Angry

BettyFloop · 30/05/2020 02:01

I just want to make sure JKR knows she's loved and admired - for HP and so much more. Just in case she reads here...

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