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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling threatening legal action

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TheLashKingOfScotland · 29/05/2020 16:52

A TRA and Canadian Green Party rep has made libellous comments about JK regarding her position on trans rights and her suitability to be trusted around children.
JK asked her to retract them or they would hear from JK's lawyers. Currently they are digging in. Seemingly unaware that JK has pursued legal cases based on Twitter comments before and that it isn't acceptable to make unfounded statements about people.
It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
It could have wider reaching consequences if certain sectors see they can't just make unfounded accusations any more.

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 30/05/2020 02:09

I think these young people need to get off the internet and hang out in the real world for a while. Making actionable statements about a very famous and incredibly rich children’s writer and living in such a bubble that they assume there will be no consequences is the definition of foolish. It’s like a lot of monkeys throwing nuts at lion; they might get away with it a couple of times, but sooner or later the lion will lose patience.

TehBewilderness · 30/05/2020 03:11

They mostly do get away with it because the rules are different for celebrities.
For reasons I think are absurd the laws allow for am astonishing amount of defamation and persecution of public figures, aka celebrities.

MoleSmokes · 30/05/2020 03:34

That's a coincidence! Posted about this law on another thread yesterday:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3920256-MNHQ-I-hope-you-are-going-to-release-your-own-statement-on-GMB-Union?msgid=96974841

Extract:

"Defamation laws take effect"

Libel laws in England and Wales are being significantly reformed from tomorrow to provide clearer, better protection for people publicly expressing opinions.

Published 31 December 2013
From: Ministry of Justice and Shailesh Vara MP

The Defamation Act 2013 reverses the chilling effect on freedom of expression current libel law has allowed, and the prevention of legitimate debate we have seen in the past. For example, some journalists, scientists or academics have faced unfair legal threats for fairly criticising a company, person or product.

For the first time a new serious harm threshold has been set to help people understand when claims should be brought and discourage trivial claims that harm freedom of speech and unnecessarily take up court time.

Justice Minister Shailesh Vara said:

The introduction of these new measures will make it harder for wealthy people or companies to bully or silence those who may have fairly criticised them or their products.

As a result of these new laws, anyone expressing views and engaging in public debate can do so in the knowledge that the law offers them stronger protection against unjust and unfair threats of legal action.

These laws coming into force represent the end of a long and hard-fought battle to ensure a fair balance is struck between the right to freedom of expression and people’s ability to protect their reputation.

The Defamation Act contains a series of measures that include:

  • Protection for scientists and academics publishing peer reviewed material in scientific and academic journals
  • Protection for those who are publishing material on a matter of public interest where they reasonably believe that publication is in the public interest
  • Introducing a new process which should help a person who feels an online statement is defamatory to resolve the dispute directly with the person who has posted the statement. This offers better protection for the operators of websites hosting user-generated content, provided they follow the new process. New regulations have been introduced to ensure that this process operates effectively
  • A single publication rule to prevent repeated claims against a publisher about the same material
  • Action to address libel tourism by tightening the test for claims involving those with little connection to England and Wales being brought before our courts
  • Greater protection for secondary publishers including booksellers and newsagents by removing the possibility of an action for defamation being brought against them if it is reasonably practicable for an action to be brought against the primary publisher.

The old laws on libel had been criticised for being outdated, costly and unfair - the new law seeks to ensure effective protection for freedom of expression and encourages open and honest public debate, whilst still protecting those whose reputation has been unjustly attacked.

www.gov.uk/government/news/defamation-laws-take-effect

Is that what you were thinking of?

(Genuine question! Not being sarky.)

Dances · 30/05/2020 05:31

This is good

mobile.twitter.com/net_nuance/status/1212482465811648514

Kantastic · 30/05/2020 06:58

A man tweeted her showing her his 9 year olds painting. She then replied to it and put a quote about a trans issue including the quote 'fuck up some terfs'. I mean come on, don't defend that

I find the cluelessness about how their fellow human beings function so amazing. Either this person thinks that JK did that on purpose... or they think that women here can be manipulated into thinking she did it on purpose. Either way, 🤪

ThinEndoftheWedge · 30/05/2020 09:34

The fact that the ‘defamatory’ tweet came from the Canadian Green Party - wow - now that’s a surprise.

JK - ovaries of steel.

contactusdeletus · 30/05/2020 09:52

Good for her for not tolerating this kind of bullying behaviour. There is absolutely nothing to suggest JKR can't be trusted around children - what a load of tripe!

These people really are incredibly unbalanced.

BringbackLang · 30/05/2020 09:59

I hope JK goes through with it especially after that non-apology. People like Nicola have to realise that a) they are not above the law and b) just because they say something doesn't make it true.

Actions have consequences and if JK lets her get away with it now she, and many other TRA's will control think they can get away with whatever the like.

BringbackLang · 30/05/2020 10:00

By she meaning the tweeter

HelloMissus · 30/05/2020 10:06

I hope JKR pursues this.
It would be great to have a woman of her standing say what she believes in court.

teawamutu · 30/05/2020 10:14

She's richer than God, has a strong moral core and won't back down on women's rights.

Great target choice, TRAs Grin

Lordfrontpaw · 30/05/2020 10:22

What is it with Greens?

Lamahaha · 30/05/2020 10:24

@BringbackLang

By she meaning the tweeter
She is probably not a she.
GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 30/05/2020 10:32

JKR should start a political party. I'd join.

MorrisZapp · 30/05/2020 10:34

I'd totally join.

Mermoose · 30/05/2020 10:36

I hope JK writes an article clearly setting out her views on this issue. I think that could do a huge amount of good clearing up misconceptions (and misrepresentations) about the gender critical view.

BringbackLang · 30/05/2020 10:39

Ah makes sense.

littlbrowndog · 30/05/2020 10:53

She’s great. She pays taxes. She donates huge amounts to charity

I think she also worked with the baroness with a children’s charity

She is a great role model for children

And she is loving the children’s drawings she has been sent

She is a strong woman.

MrsOfBebbanburg · 30/05/2020 10:56

you were not skilled enough at writing to convey your horrible TERF opinions into your writing.

😂

What the hell are they even trying to say here? That you must be skilled to convey terfyism? That poorly educated people can be “terfs” but no-one would know because they can’t say it? That J.K. Rowling didn’t know the words to say it? 😂😂😂😂

BringbackLang · 30/05/2020 10:58

When these fools mature, they are going to look back and cringe on their insane ranting

AdelaideK · 30/05/2020 11:03

Good on her.

RoyalCorgi · 30/05/2020 11:10

Dances - that little video you shared is really good. Hope everyone watches it, particularly people who have been misled into thinking that JKR is "transphobic".

Rhinosaurus · 30/05/2020 11:20

The way the TRAs pile on reminds me of a pack of hyenas.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 30/05/2020 11:25

Good for JKR.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/05/2020 11:32

I find the cluelessness about how their fellow human beings function so amazing. Either this person thinks that JK did that on purpose... or they think that women here can be manipulated into thinking she did it on purpose.

Quite!

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