JK Rowling threatening legal action

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A TRA and Canadian Green Party rep has made libellous comments about JK regarding her position on trans rights and her suitability to be trusted around children.
JK asked her to retract them or they would hear from JK's lawyers. Currently they are digging in. Seemingly unaware that JK has pursued legal cases based on Twitter comments before and that it isn't acceptable to make unfounded statements about people.
It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.
It could have wider reaching consequences if certain sectors see they can't just make unfounded accusations any more.

Yes of course Pankhurst. I was talking about this like of crap

@Dances

Yes of course Pankhurst. I was talking about this like of crap

Yes, I see, of course this issue shouldn't be brought up on the lovely Ickabod threads and the fantastic pictures kid's have drawn.

JKR is today back to posting kids' pictures and commenting on each one, addressing the child by name, and pointing out some feature in the art that she loves.

I think this winds them up more tbh. JKR has a life, a very busy one outside of all this..like most others. But their 'side' seems mainly to live this nonsense..just constantly. It seems to be quite pissing them off that they aren't getting her undivided attention for being raging misogynists. I find it utterly fucking vile that they keep posting terf/vile stuff on the kids picture threads though, a bit low even for them. But again, showing the world who they are, so sunlight, but in an awful way.

This article in Metro is a disgrace, but the comments are all pro-Rowling.

metro.co.uk/2020/05/29/harry-potter-author-jk-rowling-apologises-accidental-explicit-terf-response-childs-illustration-12778226/

I love Harry Potter, I queued at midnight for the last 4 books and was 19 when the books ended so very much grew with the characters and writing.

I didn't watch the movies when they came out because I didn't want them to interrupt my version in my head but when I was going through a miscarriage in 2014 I stayed in bed for a week and watched them all and the familiarity made me feel safe and comforted whilst I was mourning.

So I feel for anyone who is hurt that something that brings them so much joy or was a large part of their childhood is tainted; but if JK Rowling was tweeting 'trans women are women' because I hold her in such high esteem I would investigate why she feels that way because you cant disassociate an author from their work so if you love their writing and thought process you owe them the respect to try and understand their point of view.

Someone asked if there were other people coming out in support of JKR. I suppose many of her fellow authors, who are not as successful, are scared of losing publishing deals. I imagine that most children’s and YA publishers are not wanting to alienate their young readers who are steeped in the culture of gender identity. The fact that Juno Dawson won the YA prize at Hay (up against Majorie Blackman amongst others) indicates the niche demographic the market is lauding at the moment.

I was disappointed that one of my daughter’s favourite authors (after JKR and Emma Carroll) Robin Stevens did an awful tweet accusing JKR of ‘hating’ trans children. She was on Juno Dawson’s thread congratulating her on her win and was aghast at JKR’s cut and paste faux pas -horrified as to why JKR would even have such a horrid sentence to cut and paste?! So just the act of obviously having had some correspondence with someone about the truly nasty physical assault by a mid-20s 6ft TRA on a 60 year old woman was transphobic. Of course Juno was mostly horrified by the use of the word ‘he’ in relation to the violent perpetrator of the crime as that’s obviously far more hurtful and violent than being physically attacked by someone who is much bigger and physically stronger than you.

How does someone intelligent think that having a different opinion on the maintenance of single-sex spaces means that you have basically turned into a Dahl-esque child-eating witch?! No wonder so many kids are depressed when there are all these adults telling children and young people that nasty people hate them. I do not hate any children. I just want children with gender dysphoria/autism/depression to get some proper support and not have their discomfort and pain exacerbated and masked by the promotion of a one-size fits all treatment path.

Needless to say I won’t be burning Robin Steven’s books

Would love to know where the hating trans kids thing has came from. Truly. I have never ever seen anything to even vaguely suggest that, and cannot imagine JKR hating any child tbh. Its just endless smears, lies and twisting of everything.

[quote Lamahaha]This article in Metro is a disgrace, but the comments are all pro-Rowling.

metro.co.uk/2020/05/29/harry-potter-author-jk-rowling-apologises-accidental-explicit-terf-response-childs-illustration-12778226/[/quote]
Metro editorial is very very woke. They don’t even try to disguise whose side they take.

So why can't people post on them to compliment the children't art? I think that is what was meant.

That is what I meant. Just hoping to slightly drown out some of the mean spirited posts that are appearing. I wouldn't dream of referring to or drawing attention to some of the unpleasantness on a thread meant for children. Nor posting replies on individual children's posts. Just general enthusiasm for the spirit of the thread to add balance.

Needless to say I won’t be burning Robin Steven’s books

In the earlier stages of this, I actually saw a TRA encouraging other TRAs to buy potter books specifically to burn. That would show her apparently. The theory seemed to be, buy up ALL the books between them, burn them then noone gets to see her work. I wonder if even JKR could afford to buy every single HP book that exists around the world?! Was a great plan, anyway, sure would have showed her, even if they did just buy a few between them!

The Lumpen Lawyer is perfect! As is 'transgenderism'.

And all the animé-avatared and Japanese-named persons? Looks a lot like cultural appropriation to me.

The LibDems really were determined to perform as poorly as possible in the election, weren't they? Not sure who else ran in Caerphilly but I can't imagine even Labour at its most incompetent fielding a less promising candidate

The Lib Dems didn't field a candidate in Caerphilly. They stood aside because they didn't want to split the anti- Brexit vote (their explanation- not mine) The reality is they would probably have got less votes than the Brexit party got. Caerphilly is a safe Labour seat held by an MP who served under Blair and Brown and was not a Corbynista.

That Metro article is very interesting.
It's obviously biased but it still manages to make the TRA side look really, really bad, largely because of the references to Wolf and their desire to "fuck up some TERFs."
And then there are pretty extensive quotes from Rowling which are clearly reasonable, including the full text of the "live your best life" tweet which made them all so mad. And it mentions the actual, batshit reason why Maya Forstater was sacked.

If that's their best shot at distorting the facts in their favour without resorting to lies, libel or intimidation, they are fucked. Bring on the sunlight.

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There’s some shit you just can’t polish - really. There’s not enough PR in the world to turn Hyde Park into david & Goliath (where T is David).

In the earlier stages of this, I actually saw a TRA encouraging other TRAs to buy potter books specifically to burn.

People were buying Beatles records just to burn them ...

www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/burn-beatles-records-lennon-jesus/

There’s some shit you just can’t polish - really. There’s not enough PR in the world to turn Hyde Park into david & Goliath (where T is David).

They did try, hard. The amount of 'maria attacked the poor transwoman' that I saw at the time was insane. Unfortunately for the TRAs, people who were spreading this, were told that was not what happened and asked to watch the actual footage, which quickly put the bullshit TRA version to rest. Mind, some of them still tout it now, sure I saw Oger going on about Maria actually being the assailant recently..

People were buying Beatles records just to burn them ...

Thats just..insane to me. Punish people for stuff they do/say you dislike by filling their bank accounts even more?

A post with 2 insanes. Wow. Please try to ignore that and I blame it on my meds. As I am more creative than that usually..I hope!

I read the Metro article Kantastic and felt that anyone reading it and taking it in was unlikely to think the worse of JKR. It paints a picture of a reasonable and moderate person caught in an argument with people having very strange views.

The Edinburgh News has an article about it in which:
TERFs is a term that applies to trans-exclusionary radical feminists, a group which believes trans women should not have the same rights as people whose identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex.

Why is this issue always reported on so disingenuously? I want trans people to have the same rights everyone else has, and actually additional rights - for example the right to separate spaces so they don't have to share with other people of the same sex if they don't want to.

'A group of people who believe male people should not have female rights' would get 'terfs' far too much support as thats a very sensible position. Putting it the way they do, some will assume that terfs are some unreasonable group who want to strip trans people of their basic human rights or something.

They can't be honest about it, even to themselves. The truth of what they want isn't something they can openly talk about, as we've just seen on another thread.

[quote DickKerrLadies]I'd forgotten about this WRT Harrop as well

twitter.com/Denise001212/status/1266867665085349888[/quote]
That exchange between Malfoy (that's Harrop) and Lockhart (that's Jensen - and sorry because I know from another thread that most of fwr don't like Harry Potter but they match those characters so perfectly), makes me cringe every single time I see it. They're so

The repetition of 'hate' is really odd and illogical. I can see how someone who believes in trans ideology could think that someone who asserts that biological sex matters is wrong. I disagree, but people are entitled to their beliefs, whatever I think of them.

It's a great flying logical leap to 'it's okay to be physically violent towards people who don't share my ideological beliefs'. Even further to 'a person criticising that kind of violence hates trans people' or even 'a person who reads criticism of that violence hates trans children'.

One would think that only a tiny minority of those holding the first belief in the chain would reach the end of it. Instead you have a whole lot of people taking for granted that any kind of disagreement with the ideology or anyone holding it = hating all trans people. Anything less than complete capitulation and 'validating' anything any one of them says is taken as hate. And they repeat the hate part, without the details. It's bizarre.

Some of them are still trying to allege that Maria put Wolf in a headlock. The sheer implausibility of this, even if you've only seen still images of the two of them, seems not to matter.