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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transphobic attitudes contradict the good feminism does everyday

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Blamonge · 08/04/2020 21:49

Why is there such a large portion of the feminist movement so against trans culture. Trans people have been some of the biggest advocates for supporting allegedly oppressed groups. Why is it suddenly okay to for feminists (a formally oppressed group) to oppress trans people (currently oppressed group) why?

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deepwatersolo · 10/04/2020 21:28

Ok, maybe this is finally my opportunity to ask: when I was 15, I went to the UK for a language holiday. And the family I stayed with (actually family‘s Dad) made one hell of a desert: it was all chocolate somehow, made in the oven and somehow on top it was more cake/pudding like, while at the bottom it was more saucy. I forgot what it was called (when you are young you think there will be many more opportunities...but alas) I never ate it again. Still thinking of it decades later.
Does anyone here know the dish? I‘d kill for the recipe. Anyone?

isabellerossignol · 10/04/2020 21:30

I know the sort of thing you mean! You make a cake mix and pour boiling water over it and then it turns to a sauce on the bottom

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 10/04/2020 21:31

Yeah

Self saucing pudding

Used to get them in a packet many years ago

BeUpStanding · 10/04/2020 21:32

Deep That's probably Chocolate Sponge Pudding, or at least that's what my mum calls it. Chocolate sauce made from cocoa at the bottom of a basin and chocolate sponge on top. Treacle sponge is the same but with golden syrup

isabellerossignol · 10/04/2020 21:33

this sort of thing

deepwatersolo · 10/04/2020 21:55

Omg isabel that is it, the picture looks exactly as I remember it! And a recipe, too!
Thank you, ladies, who would have thought that this would be the place for me to find this long lost treasure with your help! I am so going to try it out as soon as I get the ingredients (next week, I hope).
Oh, and my ‚kill for it‘ offer stands 😉.

deepwatersolo · 10/04/2020 22:01

Beupstanding funny that you say treacle sponge with golden syrup is somehow similar. For Reading the thread I had a hard time figuring out the dishes and the treacle sponge golden syrup thing was something I could not conceptualize at all, but reading it ,my‘ chocolate dish came to mind...

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 10/04/2020 22:46

Is it a class thing, like salad cream v mayonnaise?

I don't think so. Treacle is molasses while golden syrup is similar to but not molasses. They are both products of sugar refining.

FlamingoAndJohn · 10/04/2020 23:23

@deepwatersolo.
I have a recipe for a lemon pudding that sounds similar. You stand it in a tray of water as you cook it so the bottom doesn’t set. The recipe is basically regular chocolate sponge, put in pudding dish, stand pudding dish in a tray of water, stick in oven.

Wasn’t there an explosion at a molasses factory in Boston USA and it poured down the street?
I love how on tins of black treacle it says you have to throw it away without open when it reaches its expiration date.
Why is there always a tin of black treacle in the cupboard? I don’t ever recall buying it or using it but there is always one there.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/04/2020 23:36

There was, and it was terrible. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood

When my mum died I inherited her tin of black treacle, and it had gone completely solid because it had been so long since she'd used it. I suppose she didn't make puddings or toffee with it any more once we'd all left home, and then she thought the grandchildren didn't need feeding up the way we had in the forties and fifties. They, poor things, never got puds like jam roly poly the way we had.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/04/2020 00:11

Oh yes! I've heard it described as a molasses tsunami.

MissHoskins · 11/04/2020 00:17

I have a tin of Black treacle, I use some of the contents twice a year. Christmas cake and Christmas pudding. I've had this one tin for about 15 years. I also have a tin of golden syrup. I use it for secret piggish purposes and I'm not going to disclose them........pancakes and crumpets may be involved though.

StrangeLookingParasite · 11/04/2020 02:01

That's probably Chocolate Sponge Pudding, or at least that's what my mum calls it. Chocolate sauce made from cocoa at the bottom of a basin and chocolate sponge on top. Treacle sponge is the same but with golden syrup

Steamed puddings !
With jam, or golden syrup, or a fully chocolaté one. My mum made them often when we were growing up.

I'd forgotten how good they were.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 11/04/2020 03:51

Golden syrup and treacle are made from refined sugar with varying amounts of molasses added to intensify the flavour. Blackstrap molasses, which I use occasionally for dark gingerbread is basically unrefined sugar. The flavour is powerful and oddly bitter, you’d not want to make treacle tart with it.

Years ago a friend of mine, who is an entirely lovely person, but not particularly interested in food, invited me around for dinner. She made treacle tart for dessert, but assumed that breadcrumbs meant the sort of commercial, dry crumbs you buy for coating food to fry. The result was ... not good. So don’t do that.

Golden syrup dumplings are basically scone dough poached in a golden syrup and water combo. Was a staple dessert when I was a child and still delicious, if stodgy.

One of my favourite things to do with gingerbread is give it a quick warm up in the microwave and serve with caramel sauce. You can make a really easy caramel sauce in the microwave with brown sugar, butter and cream. I suppose it’s butterscotch sauce really, but delicious. It keeps well in the fridge for a few days so you can keep eating in spoonfuls when you need cheering up.

Chocolate self-saucing pudding is lovely. You can make a lemon version which is generally called lemon delicious in recipes. And it is.

And lastly to apple crumble. I have lost my copy, but in Elizabeth David’s “Spices, Salt and Aromatics in the English Kitchen”, there is a recipe for apple Grasmere, which is a kind of shortbread crumble flavoured with ginger. It is entirely excellent if you can find the recipe.

Agrona · 11/04/2020 04:30

www.food.com/recipe/self-saucing-mocha-fudge-pudding-27974

This is a very simple, very delicious chocolate self saucing pudding. Hmmm. Maybe it might be on the list for next week's dessert.

NotBadConsidering · 11/04/2020 06:19

there is a recipe for apple Grasmere, which is a kind of shortbread crumble flavoured with ginger

Does it use the Grasmere Gingerbread Shop biscuits for the crumble?! I love those biscuits, my gran used to send me a tin from time to time because she knew how much I loved them ☹️.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 11/04/2020 06:42

Does it use the Grasmere Gingerbread Shop biscuits for the crumble?! I love those biscuits, my gran used to send me a tin from time to time because she knew how much I loved them.

Something like, but homemade. I managed to track down the ingredients.

I think best made with sharp cooking apples, lightly sweetened, stewed and cooled.

Topping. This is the original recipe, so not in metric. I put everything in the food processor and give it a whiz.

5oz butter / 8oz plain flour / 2oz brown sugar / 2oz caster sugar / pinch of bicarbonate of sofa / teaspoon of ground ginger.

I like to increase the amount of ginger because I like it.

I made it in small ramekins, but you can used a pie dish. Spoon the crumble mixture over the apples, bake in a moderate oven for about 25 minutes.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 11/04/2020 10:00

Have I missed the recipe for chocolate concrete a pp offered earlier? I'm on the app and I can't easily scroll back.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/04/2020 10:05

Thanks for that mocha pudding recipe, sounds lovely!

deepwatersolo · 11/04/2020 12:26

@deepwatersolo. I have a recipe for a lemon pudding that sounds similar. You stand it in a tray of water as you cook it so the bottom doesn’t set. The recipe is basically regular chocolate sponge, put in pudding dish, stand pudding dish in a tray of water, stick in oven.

Are you saying it is chocolate sponge but at some point lemon comes in? Or lemon lemon? Can you post the recipe? It sounds lovely either way!

Danceswithwarthogs · 11/04/2020 13:41

Chocolate concrete - Sorry recipe is industrial quantity...

3/4lb (12oz) flour - sieved
1/2lb (8oz) granulated sugar
1 and 1/2 oz of cocoa -sieved
1tsp vanilla essence
1/2lb (8oz) marg or butter

Melt the fat, add vanilla essence
Mix sugar, flour and cocoa in a bowl
Add melted fat and mix well
Press into 2x greased sandwich tins
Brush top with water and sprinkle with sugar
Bake for 30-40 mins at 180/gas 4
Cut while still warm and soft.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 11/04/2020 13:52

Much obliged to you Warthogs

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/04/2020 14:08

Making a trifle later for lunch tomorrow (lunch is not just trifle)

FlamingoAndJohn · 11/04/2020 14:26

I would love a lunch that was just trifle.

aladyofinderterminateage · 11/04/2020 14:37

I know somebody who fell into a barrel of treacle.

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