Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

[HeIenaDove]

I know in the scheme of things this is only small but its the bloody entitlement that gets to me.

When the new Coronavirus Bill came in last Thursday two men used the 2 m gap to try to push in front while i was queuing outside Tesco.

Re, social distancing , i try i really try to stay 2m from people at all times on the rare occasions but the amount of men who walk right next to me or towards me KNOWING that i will move.

This afternoon was the final straw Queuing outside Sainsburys observing the 2 m rule i had to wait until the queue moved to where the trolleys were . There was no way i could get to them BEFORE queuing and observe the 2m rule so i had to wait in the queue before i got to them. I leant across to put my pound in the slot and the FOUR men queuing behind me jumped the queue by moving along in front.

Im so fed up with the entitlement Every time its been a man EVERY TIME. Ive not seen this from women at all .

I've just come back from shopping. Trying my level best to buy enough food to last a week, but I'm only allowed two of anything.

So I will have to go back.

It appears that measures to prevent stockpiling are contributing to the risk of spreading the virus.

Third try.

I'm amazed at just how many of you are going out so frequently as to be able to make these observations - you know, seeing as we're in a lockdown and all that

Bingo!!

I go out twice a week to food shop , pick up medication and get electric for our key meter. We no longer have a car and i dont drive anyway. DH handed over his licence on 3rd Jan. He no longer felt safe enough on the roads. Perhaps you would prefer he hadnt as then we could go out less.

Im hoping to get Boots to deliver the neccessary heart medication that keeps him alive. Check your privilege.

hoping to get Boots to deliver the neccessary heart medication that keeps him alive

But some pharmacists are men Helena . So that totally invalidates all of your lived experience.

And my husband is practically perfect in every way. (Or is that Mary Poppins, I get confused ?) Anyway that means you can’t ever complain about any man. Because.

Have we had “ you are all just sad hairy lesbians who can’t get a man “ yet ?

Interesting to see this thread as I was just thinking earlier on my walk that out of the (quite a lot) of men I saw walking only one actually moved off his path to give distance. Not one of the others bothered. It was always just me who moved

Check your privilege.

Oh hilarious. I'm shielding so not going out at all, not even twice a week for shopping or every day to exercise. So, check your privilege!

The day that DH handed in his licence i remember him saying a big part of the reason was that he found it too stressful to second guess what other blokes on the road are doing

"other blokes on the road" were his exact words.

DH had been driving since the 1960s No accidents. Not even a shunt up the arse. Clean licence.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington

I'll put it this way then - NAMALT is an accusation that's being used here to dismiss etiirely reasonable disagreement of the original observation. People are not saying "not all men do this". What they are saying is that they are not convinced this is a male thing at all, so much as a person thing.

There are lots of tings like that, which are just people things, some people are rude, or dishonest, or tacky, or whatever. They aren't particulary feminist issue. And while someone might think some of them are, based on their own experience, there really isn't anything wrong with someone else thinking they aren't, based on their own experience. It's not anti-feminist somehow, or inappropriate. It's not stupid, or evidence that they are really a man, or are self-hating women, or whatever bs people want to accuse them of.

We have discussions on here all the other time about other groups using statistics or making anecdotal claims about women that aren't supported, and how it's not a good thing to do that. Not because it's anti-woman but because it's inaccurate, or even just not something there is good evidence for. And guess what, it's not anti-trans, or anti-men, or anything like that, when women or feminists complain about that.

The fact that this is a feminist board doesn't mean that some people are allowed to just say whatever they think about some non-female group of people, and those who think it is inaccurate or incorrect or unclear, even if they are also women, have to stay quiet.

In my area - rural, not many people walking - there's a certain amount of competitive distancing going on.

Just went for a walk this effect was gobsmackingly obvious!

Family of 4 on bikes women and 2 kids went over other side man cycled right down middle
Two young men one went to move across the other didn't so the first came back to take the whole path and we had to go on verge
Another family woman took kids to side man strode down middle
And there were more...

Maybe the men round my way are more arseholes.

Have we had “ you are all just sad hairy lesbians who can’t get a man “ yet ?

Some of you really aren't keen on a different viewpoint. Nobody has said this so cut out the preemptive straw man.

Although we did get the idiotic accusation that a poster of 15 years with an extensive posting history, showing she was almost certainly a woman, was a man.

@Goosefoot you're my hero.

I felt very attacked today, for reasons that I still can't understand, by a group that I thought I had some affinity with. I do believe that I have affinity with many on the feminism chat, but there seem to be a group that can't bare it if their opinions aren't validated.

Hearhooves did you not realise that people can still go out? If so, no wonder you're surprised!
This thread is about men people are encountering whilst out and about, so of course those very people who relate are going to post.
Are you still a nurse, Hearhooves?

Comicshadows

There are some great posters here who are very insightful and also have some sense of how to make generalisations and how not to. There have een some really amazing threads and social and feminist analysis - there was a thread which started about a Douglas Murray article, one about knitting, one about the Labour Party. They make it worth reading here. And there are some interesting discussions too where people talk about their personal experiences and perceptions in a way that is totally reasonable, not getting upset when others have a different experience or making unwarranted assumptions.

Some discussions though are dominated by people who basically seem to want to make anecdotal claims about males with no disagreement, occasionally they can be weird like men sneeze in a way that is wrong/too loud, whatever. Sometimes is depends who hops on a thread. I know a lot of people just stay off the ones like that, but given how often we complain when other communities allow this stuff to go on even when many people should know better, I'm not always inclined to do so.

Goose, as if any of the women here could stop you saying whatever you wish to, at length. We don't, and you fucking well know it.

I cannot be arsed with this peck peck peck wankery today. I'll be back when I have something in the tank that approaches patience for windbaggery.

Talk about missing the point...

I cannot be arsed with this peck peck peck wankery today. I'll be back when I have something in the tank that approaches patience for windbaggery.

Take a break, read a book, watch something on Netflix. The peck pecking will still be here when you get back (it's like sunrise and taxes, never fails).

Notredamn

I know people can go out - as infrequently as possible.

I'm just very shocked how individual posters have so much direct experience when outings are supposed to be limited to one period of exercise per day and infrequent shopping.

Also shocked at the posters exercising on what sounds like Picadilly Circus. Why add to the crowds? Why wouldn't you go elsewhere?

If you've got a big family, hooves, infrequent shopping might be as much as three times a week. Due to the fact that many shops are rationing food. I'm not sure what you expect people to do, exactly.

So everyone on here has got big families?

And the exercising in busy areas where they can't maintain social distancing?

But, sure, it's men that are the problem.

Well who knows how big a family someone has on here. I've just told you, that I personally, cannot limit myself to once a week. I'd like to, but, today, I had to leave a load of items at the shop. And I don't have a massive family at all.

If people are exercising in busy areas, maybe that's where they live?

No OP, you just don't like men.

If people are exercising in busy areas, maybe that's where they live?

Why's that an excuse? You stay away from busy areas. Are the people who live on the coast ok to crowd together on beaches today because it's busy where they live? Clearly not. The expectation is that everyone stays away. Same principle here. If you're exercising in a busy place then you are part of the problem.

If people live in a busy area, they have to navigate that to get to the shops, or to walk the dog. You can hardly blame them.

Who is exercising in busy areas?!

I went for a walk through the woods. Passed a few other people. Busier than usual for sure, but plenty of room for everyone (if they moved to the side!!!).

If that was to me. Not sure it was.