Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

[HeIenaDove]

I know in the scheme of things this is only small but its the bloody entitlement that gets to me.

When the new Coronavirus Bill came in last Thursday two men used the 2 m gap to try to push in front while i was queuing outside Tesco.

Re, social distancing , i try i really try to stay 2m from people at all times on the rare occasions but the amount of men who walk right next to me or towards me KNOWING that i will move.

This afternoon was the final straw Queuing outside Sainsburys observing the 2 m rule i had to wait until the queue moved to where the trolleys were . There was no way i could get to them BEFORE queuing and observe the 2m rule so i had to wait in the queue before i got to them. I leant across to put my pound in the slot and the FOUR men queuing behind me jumped the queue by moving along in front.

Im so fed up with the entitlement Every time its been a man EVERY TIME. Ive not seen this from women at all .

The problem I have is someone is someone linking a negative behaviour to the sex of the people doing it when there are only two whole examples

Ah so now someones experiences have to be based on a valid amounts of examples

Awesome....so if it happens to helena 5 times she can say it?

I have checked the opening post and i cant see where helena said ALL men do it, but its early and i may have missed it

The one time I’ve been out shopping I didn’t notice anyone doing anything ‘wrong’

I was just trying not to do anything ‘wrong’ myself...and i was concentrating so hard i missed the One way arrows on the floor! Won’t make that mistake again

So in my limited experience i was bring the twat!

And the third bunch of men shopping WITH their wives. Why? Why trail around behind her, performing no useful purpose when he could sit in the car or stay at home and leave space for others’ safety

Many women actively like/want their partner to accompany them everywhere.....I see it in clothes shops too.....with men hanging around, endlessly waiting for their partner. Jeez! I couldn't stand it.

Don't forget, also, that for many people - the trip out to the supermarket is the only activity that many people will have to get out of the house.......

This crisis is bringing out some of the worst and most petty concerns of all of us; as well as the best. It can be very easy to judge and to virtue signal.......and everyone seems to be at it.

Why do the NAMALT tribe even come in to Feminism Chat?

How else are they gonna let us know they're fucking stupid?

It's men and women. I posted about an incident with a woman pushing in yesterday

When men did this to me I gave them The Look. It works for me!

I dunno.

I mean I spent years ignoring this stuff. Put myself into so many situations that could have ended badly desperately trying to prove people wrong when they say "men do X" or "hes a bloke just he careful" and if anything went wrong I thought it was my fault that I'd mis understood in some way.

Its only now that I see that its not more has it ever been me that's the problem. And that there are parts of male behavioral that are a real issue and so widespread that you honestly have to remind yourself you arent crazy By seeing it as a problem.because its everywhere and therfore it must be normal right?

I'm done now.

Im.done defending men like that. I'm.done even pretending the nice ones even have a fucking clue.

And I'm.done having to start every sentence with "I know it's not all men..."

Fuck that. This board is not here to pander to that. This is one place we dont have to centre mens feelings

@HorseRadishFemish who's fucking stupid?

The people in the "NAMALT tribe".

Keep up!

And the third bunch of men shopping WITH their wives. Why? Why trail around behind her, performing no useful purpose when he could sit in the car or stay at home and leave space for others’ safety.

Surely the question is why didn't either of them? Why is it the men that were wrong there? The women could stay at or in the car too? How come it's only the men who were wrong for being there?

Strange isn't it how many of you are noticing far more men shopping than normal - during a pandemic when the safe option is to at home more men than usual are shopping, presumably putting themselves at risk rather than their female partners.

@HorseRadishFemish so you're saying that all people in the NAMALT 'tribe' are fucking stupid?

It has been explained why "men". Go back and read properly.

And that there are parts of male behavioral that are a real issue and so widespread that you honestly have to remind yourself you arent crazy By seeing it as a problem.because its everywhere and therfore it must be normal right?

Yes @SarahTancredi - I think the "manslamming" and the utterly outrageous entitlement men feel they have to public space as so "normal" that we don't see it. It's "natural" apparently, because I don't know, they're broader across the shoulders? Or something?

And when women call it out as a general tendency of men, they get called "feminazis" or paranoid or mean. And that it's NAMALT.

But all men get the benefit of this masculine socialisation.

Obviously I can get through to you, I wonder why?

HAHAHAHA!

@HorseRadishFemish apologies, I'm trying to get this straight in my head. You're saying that all men are fucking stupid? Or all people who don't think that all men are arseholes are fucking stupid?

And the third bunch of men shopping WITH their wives. Why? Why trail around behind her, performing no useful purpose

To be fair it's normally the wife that wants to tag along for a couple's trip out. Most men would quite happily get out of the house on their own for some alone time

Neither. Go back and read. I can't do that for you.

No doctor has ever come on here to explain why testicles need a entire seats worth of space to air , or why waiting their turn causes such physical and mental distress that they have no choice but to shove you in the queue.

But go ahead tell me why thats perfectly normal behaviour...

I have read it, twice. I can't work out who you've got such a problem with.

I'm trying to understand why some women think this is an exclusively male issue. Personally I believe it's generally people being ignorant, selfish and oblivious to others, nothing to do with sex.

To be fair it's normally the wife that wants to tag along for a couple's trip out

Are we counting the wives who get nothing but phone calls if they do dare to go shopping alone that it's easier just to bring the partner, here.

And if makes me really sad when a woman feels the need to speak to another woman in such a condescending way.

Just adding my experiences, tbh it is men I've seen doing this

Another friend said it too - she then put her observation on Facebook, that was a big mistake she got absolutely pasted for it by all the enraged men 😳🤦‍♀️

Comic, do you know what the “NAMALT” trope/movement is? Do you understand the history of it, and how it is used?

I suggest you google and research, then perhaps you’ll be less confused about the difference between disliking the NAMALT movement and hating all men.

You obviously don't get it at all comicshadows, but thanks for your reply.