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Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

741 replies

HeIenaDove · 03/04/2020 20:32

I know in the scheme of things this is only small but its the bloody entitlement that gets to me.

When the new Coronavirus Bill came in last Thursday two men used the 2 m gap to try to push in front while i was queuing outside Tesco.

Re, social distancing , i try i really try to stay 2m from people at all times on the rare occasions but the amount of men who walk right next to me or towards me KNOWING that i will move.

This afternoon was the final straw Queuing outside Sainsburys observing the 2 m rule i had to wait until the queue moved to where the trolleys were . There was no way i could get to them BEFORE queuing and observe the 2m rule so i had to wait in the queue before i got to them. I leant across to put my pound in the slot and the FOUR men queuing behind me jumped the queue by moving along in front.

Im so fed up with the entitlement Every time its been a man EVERY TIME. Ive not seen this from women at all .

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RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 08/04/2020 18:10

That was obviously to hooves

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 18:11

That was the poorest attempt at goading in a while. 2/10 if I'm being generous.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 18:11

Which part of ‘there was some bullying’ are you struggling to understand

A girl at my daughter's school killed herself as a result of online bullying. I'm struggling with your definition of bullying that was not potentially life threatening. I think all bullying has the potential to be life threatening

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 08/04/2020 18:12

Wow...that is generous!!

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 18:13

Halo, Rufus

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 18:13

Bullying can take a number of predictable forms Hooves

Its a pattern of behaviour concerned with control & power.

Its recognisable.

TinselAngel · 08/04/2020 18:13

Boys were awful with the verbal insults at my school. Barely a day went by when one of them didn't call me ugly.

(I'm no Miss World, but no Orc either).

Datun · 08/04/2020 18:13

potentially life threatening in the dangling someone over a staircase sense.

Dangling over the stairs hooves. Dangling. Stairs.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 08/04/2020 18:14

I'm struggling with your definition of bullying that was not potentially life threatening

Now now...where has the ‘your’ come from?

And the definition...no poster has given a definition

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 08/04/2020 18:15

Tinsel

God yeah, all insults about me physically have come from men

Complements about 50/50

Maybe its that negging thing?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 18:17

If Rufus's kids were shocked at her tales of schooldays past that's at least hopefully a sign that things may have improved a bit?

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 18:17

Dangling over the stairs hooves. Dangling. Stairs.

Yes, I can read. And the final sentence of that paragraph was "but girls are so much worse than boys" insinuating that physical bullying is worse than mental bullying.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 08/04/2020 18:20

Hopefully kittens they’ve certainly not had experiences like that

And the one in junior school when a group of boys took a girl to the other end of the field and ripped her knickers off

I did not tell then that one, don’t think i will

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 18:26

Boys were awful with the verbal insults at my school. Barely a day went by when one of them didn't call me ugly.

Tinsel thats horrible behaviour. You know what they say about false allegations.
Cake

There's a massive (& growing) issue in schools for girls being sexually harrassed & assaulted by male peers.

Unacceptable behaviour & demonstrates a failure to safeguard children, especially girls, in schools.

Telegraph January 2020
"More than a third of girls say they have been sexually harassed at school, a charity survey has found, compared to just six per cent of their male classmates.

Two thirds of girls have been sexually harassed in public, with thousands across the UK feeling unsafe in public and held back by sexism in schools.

Over half of these girls faced sexual harassment while dressed in their school uniform, a Plan International UK survey of more than 1,000 girls and young women aged 14-21 has revealed.

Among the issues raised in the State of Girls' Rights in the UK 2020 report were feeling unsafe in public, hampered sexual harassment in the classroom and believing that their opinions are not heard.

Girls said they did not feel safe on their own as they made their way through the places they live and, and many tried to find ways to avoid being physically and verbally harassed. "
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/19/third-girls-say-have-sexually-harassed-school-charity-survey/

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 18:32

(Points at Ro's post)

And that right there is why I'm glad I went to a girls school.

Datun · 08/04/2020 18:54

Oh hooves behave. And Stop moving the goalposts. It wasn't about girls being worse, it was about you implying that someone had said verbal bullying was not as bad as physical bullying.

When they were simply comparing bullying with bullying by dangling someone over the stairs.

Tch.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 08/04/2020 19:02

Datun, here is the paragraph

I went to a girls school and though there was some bullying none of it was potentially life threatening in the dangling someone over a staircase sense. But hey, girls are worse, obviously.

The last sentence "But hey, girls are worse, obviously"

How is that not about minimising non physical bullying and what does the comment about girls mean then? It's making the comment that boys dangling another boy over the stairs is worse than what bullying by girls would be like.

How else can you explain it?

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 19:18

How else can you explain it?

Maybe it refers to previous comments about female children such as:

"Girls in groups can be very cruel to other girls who don't quite fit, or who don't conform in some way (most of us probably have the experience of the 'bitchy' clique at school, or in the work place) - and there is tendency to close ranks both emotionally, psychologically and sometimes physically ( by forming a circle and turning their back towards 'the reject'). Girls can specialise in emotional bullying and exclusion - and in a way that boys don't tend to."

or
^"This is the type of nasty, bitchy behaviour I referred to earlier - as commonly found in all female spaces such as schools."

Just my thoughts of course.

TinselAngel · 08/04/2020 19:20

It's all a question of degrees surely?

I'd rather be called ugly than dangled over stairs, but equally a concerted online campaign as you describe with your DD's friend that results in suicide is obviously far worse than a one off physical episode.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 08/04/2020 19:24

I agree tinsel

My brother was beaten, verbally abused and emotionally bullied virtually every day of his school life

Unfortunately he was sent to a different school to me as my school was due to close

Goosefoot · 08/04/2020 19:25

Meanwhile, Goose still doesn't understand what "class analysis"

Yes, I notice you keep repeating this without actually substantiating your comment. Do you really believe that you can have class analysis without a clear sense of the material facts? That class analysis has to be rooted in material reality isn't my personal opinion, nor is it controversial.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 08/04/2020 19:25

Oh sorry

I was going to say that the emotional bullying was probably worse

SharronHeller · 08/04/2020 19:26

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 08/04/2020 19:26

TIL that saying something once is repeating it! Every day's a school day, etc.

Not a girls school though, because that would be terrible.

R0wantrees · 08/04/2020 19:29

TIL what TIL means.
(every day is indeed a schoolday)
Grin