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Men pushing in in queues and not social distancing.

741 replies

HeIenaDove · 03/04/2020 20:32

I know in the scheme of things this is only small but its the bloody entitlement that gets to me.

When the new Coronavirus Bill came in last Thursday two men used the 2 m gap to try to push in front while i was queuing outside Tesco.

Re, social distancing , i try i really try to stay 2m from people at all times on the rare occasions but the amount of men who walk right next to me or towards me KNOWING that i will move.

This afternoon was the final straw Queuing outside Sainsburys observing the 2 m rule i had to wait until the queue moved to where the trolleys were . There was no way i could get to them BEFORE queuing and observe the 2m rule so i had to wait in the queue before i got to them. I leant across to put my pound in the slot and the FOUR men queuing behind me jumped the queue by moving along in front.

Im so fed up with the entitlement Every time its been a man EVERY TIME. Ive not seen this from women at all .

OP posts:
TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 04/04/2020 22:35

Oh give it a rest. Think what you like about me. I'm neither sealioning or a troll. Move on.

You asked for an explanation. You got one.

Comicshadows · 04/04/2020 22:37

Thanks so much for that.

Oh sorry, I guess I must be sealioning again....

DidoLamenting · 04/04/2020 22:38

You really do have a problem with women departing from the approved concensus don't you IONA?

You pre-emptively straw manned an insult which no one came anywhere near making. Now it's "sea lioning"

Why don't you just tell anyone who has a different opinion to shut the fuck up? It would be more honest.

Justhadathought · 04/04/2020 22:40

Good Lord shock, I've spent most of my life single but can still recognise that a couple might find each other's company comforting, even if there's no immediate communication, especially during this difficult time

Yes, there are many men who like the cosiness of coupledom...and who are happy to submit to their partners wishes, in certain respects.
Isn't there a saying ( amongst 'sensible' men) that a "happy wife makes for a happy life". I see lots of women who are firmly in control when it comes to all things domestic, and beyond...... and I also see lots of women who are subservient to their male partners...and in arenas of the sort that I know I could not personally tolerate.

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 04/04/2020 22:41

The other term people use to describe the behavior you are exhibiting in this thread, Comicshadows, is merailing. Perhaps you prefer that explanation,

Comicshadows · 04/04/2020 22:47

I couldn't care less what you call me. I know I've learnt today never to comment on a feminism thread unless I agree wholeheartedly with certain posters. It's been a real eye opener to know that some women can display some of the traits that they dislike in men. If some of you enjoy belittling others and being condescending then crack on.

Comicshadows · 04/04/2020 22:48

Oh sorry, I'm back merailing.

I0NA · 04/04/2020 22:55

@Femail

That’s good that your supervisor stepped in.

I hope this crisis makes people appreciate retail staff more.

Gronky · 04/04/2020 22:56

Justhadathought, I've certainly noticed that there are some men and women who seem to derive an almost disconcerting amount of happiness from their submission to their partner but that could equally be that they're simply enjoying not having to plan. Certainly, if they're both happy with their relationship, I see no reason to question its validity.

Waitingforcaketobaketonight · 04/04/2020 23:03

watching the somewhat surprising development of this thread I hate to say you are totally sealioning.

Comicshadows · 04/04/2020 23:11

Actually, looking back, I can see it does look that way. I just wanted to understand certain things that were being said. I'm going to sign off now. You'll be glad to hear.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 04/04/2020 23:17

I don't spend my life constantly subconsciously aware of potential predators

What am i missing

I thought subconscious meant that you didn’t know you were doing it

I don’t think I consciously look for predators

Waitingforcaketobaketonight · 04/04/2020 23:21

OK I found out about sealioning, that is a very bitchy of you all

DidoLamenting · 04/04/2020 23:21

I don't spend my life constantly subconsciously aware of potential predators

What am i missing

I thought subconscious meant that you didn’t know you were doing it

I don’t think I consciously look for predators

I quoted another poster. I don't think the quote actually makes sense

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 04/04/2020 23:22

OK I found out about sealioning, that is a very bitchy of you all

Wowser

Massive sweeping generalisation right there

Waitingforcaketobaketonight · 04/04/2020 23:24

They know who I mean

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 04/04/2020 23:24

Ah awesome

Thanks dido i thought it was me for a bit Grin

I0NA · 04/04/2020 23:24

And the schools probably won’t open again until August or September
Hmm

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 04/04/2020 23:25

They know who I mean

Do they though...

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 04/04/2020 23:29

OK I found out about sealioning, that is a very bitchy of you all

What does this mean?Confused

Gawd blimey this thread is wearing.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 04/04/2020 23:30

Do they though...

Apart from Rufus. Rufus is always fucking funny.

TinselAngel · 04/04/2020 23:40

that is a very bitchy of you all

I'm fairly sure it's poor form to call other women "bitchy" on a feminist forum.

DidoLamenting · 04/04/2020 23:43

Somelady

(we have a right to bitch)

This was posted early on in this thread. I thought it was inappropriate.

Alez · 04/04/2020 23:50

I read somewhere about a study that showed that when people are walking in the street women are disproportionately the ones moving out of other people's way - our eyes are constantly scanning to see where to go. Whereas the majority of men don't scan, and just plough through....so it doesn't surprise me that men are worse at social distancing when walking. I haven't been out much but agree that it has tended to be men who just walk past you without trying to social distance (which is consistent with general life really - I don't think a woman has ever walked into me in the street but I've been shoulder barged by men more times than I can count)

Goosefoot · 04/04/2020 23:54

I'm fairly sure it's poor form to call other women "bitchy" on a feminist forum.

I don't know, your allowed to call accuse them of being men or sexists.

The difficulty is not people talking about whether or now women and men have different habits in terms of rule following or personal distancing, or what the cause of that might be, or people talking about their experiences. It's with people acting like their own experience is somehow definitive and completely objective, and anyone who questions the generalisation or has a different observation is somehow anti-woman or telling fibs.

When saying that not all behavioural issues are based on sex the response was that I was denying women's observations. Except women don't actually have a unified set of observations - my own observations are women's observations! So where's the discussion?