Suzanne Moore- The Guardian on Selina Todd

[Ontheblackhill]

Presumably you have all seen this......

www.theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2020/mar/02/women-must-have-the-right-to-organise-we-will-not-be-silenced

Censoring, silencing, obliterating, deleting, suppressing , prohibiting... and the rest.
I used to be one of the paying subscribers to the Guardian - until I saw what they were doing to women's voices.

A freelance writer who sometimes writes for The Guardian has reported another freelance writer to her employer, for calling her a handmaiden on twitter. Fgs.

I find it most useful that spiteful little twats like this announce to the world who they are backing for leader/government in their twitter bios and pics... it’s normally a sign of who I should definitely not vote for.

The petition is moving towards 2,000 signatures now:
www.change.org/p/guardian-news-and-media-support-suzanne-moore-of-the-guardian-for-championing-women-s-rights

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What's the petition petitioning for exactly? Is she in danger of being sacked? "Support" doesn't seem like a materially actionable petition aim, am I missing something?

Oh sorry, just seen the Pink News petition upthread; is it a counter petition to that?

Yes, to counter the Pink News one, as I understand.

There is another petition here:
'Letter to the Guardian protesting the pattern of abusive articles about trans people'
(just over 2k signatures & a curious word cloud)
www.gopetition.com/petitions/letter-to-the-guardian-protesting-the-pattern-of-abusive-articles-about-trans-people.html

The Guardian has been doing this crap for ages. They used to remove any comment that disagreed with their feminist writers, even on factual items, and eventually stopped allowing comments there altogether. It's the same way of operating here, and the same thinking.

As soon as these difficult feelings are labelled as 'gender dysphoria' or 'sex dysphoria' an individual, already distressed, is tunnelled towards a very limited/limiting explanation & treatment/support options.

Yes, that's certainly a danger with the present situation and in fact seems to be happening on a large scale, but that doesn't mean it isn't something that occurs outside of that kind of context.

That has been the 'danger' since the sexologists/gender doctors proferred the diagnosis 'gender dysphoria', the possibility of 'sex change' & the identification 'trans'.

There are rumors on Twitter that Moore has resigned?

If so, that’s appalling.

Oh, no. I sincerely hope that's not the case.

Petition in support of Moore now over 3,000.

www.change.org/p/guardian-news-and-media-support-suzanne-moore-of-the-guardian-for-championing-women-s-rights

The last time I checked her Twitter feed (a couple of minutes ago) it sounded like she was off her face in Amsterdam. But she's also made some cryptic comments these last few days. If true then I'm sure she will be fine. The Guardian and its reputation, not so much.

If so, that’s appalling

Yes, but it is leaving the Guardian even further, than already, up shit creek without a paddle. They are clearly self-isolating.

Who know where and when I will be writing next?. I am right now doing psychedics in Amsterdam to get it all in perspective. I ain't gonna stop defending women. And I won't be censored. The plant medicine says so. Sweet dreams ( Suzanne Moore)

A lost weekend in Amsterdam sounds like the perfect riposte to the current batshittery. Good on yer, Suzanne!

Well, that explains a few of her columns that I couldn't make sense of over the years, anyway...

Just about to sign the petition to support Suzanne. Not the petition against her. I did note that letter’s signatories included Travis Alabanza. And both Fox & Owl. How were the letter signatories described again?

Feminists! Hilariously!

For the record, the Guardian's moderation is extremely, overtly political.

I got banned from commenting in the Guardian in November, in the run-up to the election, for daring to discuss anti-Semitism in Labour, a topic which was verboten - apparently racism on the left wasn't something the Guardian moderators were happy for attention to be drawn to, and the idea that banning a Jew for daring to point out anti-Semitism might not be entirely in keeping with the Guardian's supposed commitment to anti-racism escaped them. (And no, for the record, I didn't say anything remotely offensive, defamatory or that hadn't been said a million times elsewhere.)

So the fact that the Guardian moderators are also blacklisting feminists for supporting women's rights comes as no surprise to me whatsoever.

Self-reflection is not Guardian moderators' strong point. I'm not sure if they're really stupid, really gullible or what.

There are loads of deleted comments on their IWD article today, I presumed they were GC comments.

There are loads of deleted comments on their IWD article today, I presumed they were GC comments

Yes! And even posts which pointed out that a lot of posts had been deleted did not even see the light of day. I've never seen a comment section so heavily moderated - leaving mainly the " all women" posts - and those completely oblivious to the debate - precisely because the Guardian ( their paper of choice) will not permit one.

I think many assume it is a non issue - one just fought out on social media........because if it was that important it would be a full public debate wouldn't it? ( the irony...as well as the biggest confidence trick)

Yes, that is what people think IMO. Though part of the problem is that so many only read a very narrow group of news sources. Someone like my mom will read the CBC here in Canada, and maybe BBC, Guardian, NYT. She won't read the Globe and Mail and never the National Post which might run something on this nationally. She would never imagine that all of these well thought of news sources would deliberately ignore an important issue altogether. As far as she can see that is a lot less likely than me having a weird bee in my bonnet.