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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Drag Queen Story Hour in Scottish Primary School

619 replies

rogdmum · 23/02/2020 09:22

Well, not branded as story hour, but the drag queen is reading a story to primary school children... Brought in by an MP (Mhairi Black)

“Thank you to Flow and @MhairiBlack for sharing their experiences with us today. It was really important to hear about Section 28 and the negative effect it had. Thankfully now we teach #LGBTEducation proudly at @Glencoats_PS #LGBTQProud @LGBTYS @LGBTHistoryScot

twitter.com/m_watsonht/status/1230607443455025157?s=21

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Languishingfemale · 26/02/2020 10:35

This incident has really highlighted to the general public what is happening. Although it's frustrating to hear all the useful idiots conflating pornified drag queens with pantomime dames, it's exposed the reality of what is happening in schools with adults exposing children to inappropriate information, images and role models. The speed with which an MP can dismiss parental concerns as homophobia shows how people are using it as a shield for the unacceptable treatment of very young children.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/02/2020 10:37

I think the blame ultimately lies with Stonewall and similar orgs, but there's plenty of remaining responsibility for making poor decisions to be shared around. The whole idea that primary schools should be striving to win Stonewall recognition is just odd, especially when those schools are in areas where any money involved could likely have been better spent on something that's actually needed. It just seems like a woke ponzi scheme, basically.

RuffleCrow · 26/02/2020 10:38

This is Drag&Trans 'education'. As a B person I will not stand by and let the LGB portion of the acronym be misused in this way.

Datun · 26/02/2020 10:39

'Smutty', 'X-rated', 'sex focused'. Even the milder epithets should, from now on, give schools, libraries and institutions pause for thought before they start wildly enthusing over introducing drag acts to little children.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 26/02/2020 10:40

Also the person who started the whole drag queen storytime thing is the writer Michelle Tea, who bears a massive share of responsibility for the colonization and subsequent destruction of lesbian spaces that are actually for lesbians and not for straight people with blue undercuts. She's worth reading about if you're curious as to how the transition from gay and lesbian to "queer" happened.

littlbrowndog · 26/02/2020 10:40

There was a fundamental failure to see the problem and a lack of moral courage to confront it.”

The “desire to... ‘push at the boundaries of what was considered appropriate’ had ’blinded them to the danger and led to some seriously flawed thinking’.“

In the absence of an openness and capacity to scrutinise and critique, to ask difficult questions and hear uncomfortable challenge, acceptance is at best misguided, at worst, dangerous.

This from Richard gardside

McPeaked · 26/02/2020 10:42

It is frightening to see the local MSP quoted in The Sun saying: “ Nats Paisley MSP George Adam said: “We need to be careful about who goes to school for events like that — not so much a drag artist, more the type of drag artist.””

The type of drag artist? Surely after this debacle the council, the headteacher, the MPs and MSPs would have the common sense that any drag queen is not appropriate for 4-12 year olds in a primary school, even if the person had all their social media private.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 26/02/2020 10:47

I hate this faux concern for adult young men. They can fuck off. I'm trying to protect my actual children from paedophiles and groomers and it's getting increasingly difficult because of the erosion of boundaries by this shit.

I know for a fact that my older DD would have instinctively known something was 'off' with this (and would have been offended by the word 'flow' too as it is clearly an inappropriate reference to periods - just what young girls scared about their first period really need - some biological male making fun of periods - does ANYONE give a shit about period shaming? Or not, because it only affects actual real females?) and wouldn't have felt able to speak out because as a child in school you just can't question the teachers authority.

And it beggars belief 'flow' put photos up on social media of the children - after all the GDPR and safeguarding paperwork around photos in schools and the number of times we've had it drummed into us we cannot post photos of the nativity on social media as parents. How on earth was this allowed? Either all the forms we have to sign mean something and there's some punishment for breaching the rules or not. It's just disgusting that there is so much tiptoeing around what is an absolute clear as a bell HUGE SAFEGUARDING FAILURE. That could have put children at risk - that already may have put children at risk.

I hope the parents sue.

Thingybob · 26/02/2020 10:56

How old is flow?

According to the papers Flow is 21 and Mhairi is 25.

Part of the rationale for inviting these two people was to explain how hard it was growing up under section 28 which is a bit odd as section 28 was repealed before either of them started school.

RuffleCrow · 26/02/2020 11:04

It goes all the way to the top in most parties and organisations @jadefinch. We need a child and woman focused taskforce to weed these people out and expose them for what they are. Angry

And for people like Nicola Sturgeon and Mhairi Black, who I'm assuming don't actually have un unnatural interest in children themselves, shame on you both for being so wilfully blind to what these men are using you for cover for! And for endorsing them in the face of such strong evidence of these visits breaking every safeguarding rule in the book! What is actually wrong with you? Is it just about money?!

Lordfrontpaw · 26/02/2020 11:51

I think some of the youngers romanticise the whole Section 28 era. They think of themselves taking on the baton of this era - when in reality it was, what from 1988-2003? (so before a lot of these kids were even born, or they were too young for it to be on their radars anyway).

People marched, they picketed and protested. It was repealed because it was unfair and bonkers.

This young crowd are portraying themselves as romanticised latter-day Rob Roys, railing against the injustices of the evil ruling classes and evil society.

The two things are just not the same. One was about fairness and rights. One isnt.

TorkTorkBam · 26/02/2020 12:12

When anybody comes into my children's school they are given a leaflet about safeguarding. They then sign a form to promise they have read the leaflet, they won't use mobile phones in the school, they won't post pictures or information about the school on social media without HT approval and a bunch of other stuff. I assume the Paisley school does similar.

Looks like Flowjob's fabulousness made this type of thing optional. I wonder if Mhairi was exempt too.

McPeaked · 26/02/2020 12:15

Wait a minute! Correct me if I’m wrong here, but under the proposed changes to the Scottish GRA if FlowJob/Mullen identifies as a woman for 3 months he would be able to sign a declaration at the Registrar Office, then wait 3 more months and get a GRC and change his birth certificate.

From forwomen.scot

What the Government wants to do:
Remove the requirement for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria and make a person’s sex a matter of self-declaration. Anyone, from the age of 16, will be able to sign a declaration stating they have “lived in the acquired gender” for the previous 3 months. There may be a small fee to lodge this document with the Registrar office. No medical treatment, no outward change in appearance or even a name change will be required. After a further 3 month “reflection period” a GRC will be issued, along with a new birth certificate in the opposite sex.

Unbelievable! This should be reported every single time this story is mentioned.

What happens if Flow falls down and breaks a leg? And he’s put into a hospital bed beside me or my elderly relative. I’m going to be called a transphobe because I object?

I’m filling out the consultation this weekend.

And thank you to FWR for all of your information.

derxa · 26/02/2020 12:15

Mhairi is sitting front and centre on the SNP bench today at PMQs. haven't seen her there for a while.

Tootsweets23 · 26/02/2020 12:18

I just need to do an aarrrrggghhh.

Leftie bloke on social media saying how everyone who has issues with this is a homophobe and how he'd love his kids to go to drag queen story sessions.

His wife has psychological issues having been exposed to adult sexuality way too young in her childhood.

How the hell can you square that circle???

Mockersisrightasusual · 26/02/2020 12:26

MB now has a part-time jobshare front bench brief.

Seems she is being marked out for high office.

Lordfrontpaw · 26/02/2020 12:39

So the party is nailing its colour to the mast then.

THEY DON'T CARE.

Everyone got that now?

SauceForTheGander · 26/02/2020 12:42

It's really depressed me how many people are saying this is OK for kids and trying to make out anyone who thinks otherwise is some pearl clutching homophobe. This just compounds how politically and social homeless I feel - "minds so open their brains have fallen out"

McPeaked · 26/02/2020 12:44

Agreed Lord. It’s a big two fingers up at anyone that questions their ideology.

Lordfrontpaw · 26/02/2020 12:51

Oh I think that will go down well with the wo/man in the street.

MadamePewter · 26/02/2020 13:13

Yet another party I won’t vote for.

Surely there’s room in politics for a pinko liberal party with no weird ideas or acceptance of misogyny? And will protect the rights of everyone, not just a vocal and threatening minority?

ScrimshawTheSecond · 26/02/2020 13:25

Part of the problem is that the SNP have 'sunk costs' in the GRA reform. They can't even slightly deviate from their wholesale support of everything rainbow, because as we all know, as soon as debate, sunlight and questions are allowed in, it all collapses.

This means they've effectively created a sacred caste beyond safeguarding concerns, and are attempting to label any questions or concerns about anyone flying the rainblow flag as 'homophobia' or 'bigotry'.

It's not a safe situation.

For what it's worth, I fought Section 28, ffs. I would fight again for the rights of LGB people. This isn't about LGB people, or even T people. It's about safeguarding, and someone needs to paint that word across the front of the Scottish parliament.

Lordfrontpaw · 26/02/2020 13:27

I suppose they have to try to distract people away from the dropping school standards and the economy.

Nothing like a dangling a little bit of magpie sparkle to divert attention. ooohhhh a cheerful rainbow....

polarisation · 26/02/2020 15:41

@Langbanned funnily enough, the Scottish Government does claim to care about period shaming, they're currently running an advertising campaign with billboards like "Shark week? Let's call periods, periods." www.gov.scot/news/lets-call-periods-periods/

What confuses me most about it is that that article on the ScotGov website refers only to women having periods. How narrow minded of them.

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/02/2020 15:47

It’s the teachers I’m most annoyed about.

Unfortunately teachers are often very young and those that are have been brought up on the cool aid. They have been taught to teach magical thinking and go against basic safeguarding in the name of trans.