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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jameela Jamil comes out as queer

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ItsLateHumpty · 06/02/2020 07:18

twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1225165342965669888

See screen shots attached.

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/jameela-jamil-comes-out-queer-amid-criticism-her-role-hbo-n1131141

“Actress Jameela Jamil formally came out as queer Wednesday in response to critics who attacked her role in a new HBO Max competition series, claiming her judging a voguing show wouldn't be representative of the black LGBTQ community in which voguing originated.”

And it seems the community are doubting her motivations, with IW questioning if she is in fact queer as she has a boyfriend (linked below), who then comes under fire themselves for bisexual, pansexual, etc. ‘erasure’.

I had to look up ‘queer’ to understand how Jameela was applying that label, so looked up PinkNews. Not terribly helpful but in essence “queer has become a useful umbrella term for some sexual and gender minorities who do not fit into the traditional categories around gender identity and sexual orientation.”
From Twitter I read it as “It’s usually an umbrella term for LGBT+ when someone doesn't want to disclose their sexuality/can't identify with a singular label but knows they aren't straight.”

www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/06/23/whats-the-difference-between-gay-and-queer/

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1225201756394659840

India Willoughby @ IndiaWilloughby
Replying to @ jameelajamil
Here you go, Twitter falls for it. SHE’S GOT A BOYFRIEND. You don’t think it’s odd she comes out as “queer” after being criticised for possibly taking a gay person’s place on a show? #Mugs #Coincidence #Gayface

I was also interested to learn the origin of vogue “Many felt that despite Jamil's comments, her place as a judge was inappropriate as voguing has its roots in the LGBTQ community. The dance style was part of drag competitions popularized by queer people of color and became ingrained in the community's culture.”

I am saddened that Jameela as a woman of colour has to take a third label to qualify for being a judge, and it seems a turf war could be breaking out.
Could this be the start of the backlash within the LGBTQI+ as the umbrella is now so vast, virtually all of us stand under it?

Jameela Jamil comes out as queer
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Lordfrontpaw · 09/02/2020 20:33

‘Deaf as a child’ - so not now?

Dear god, I know enough people who have actually had real proper cancer and bone have warbled ‘I’m a survivor don’t ya know!’.

Hell, even I’ve have a massive boob lump (non cancerous thank goodness) extracted with (what felt like) a spikey ice cream scoop (by a cross eyed surgeon - that’s a whole other story, he was lovely but I was slightly perturbed at the time although high as a kite).

Methinks someone is a bit of a drama queen.

karencantobe · 09/02/2020 20:49

Deaf as a child may mean she had glue ear

RedToothBrush · 09/02/2020 20:54

Katie Price has made a career out of ridiculous claims to get media attention. She currently may be suffering from coronavirus according to twitter.

Jade Goody used to pull stunts like crash her car, purely to get papped and get column inches to stay high profile.

So do I believe that Jameela has had a series of serious health issues or has an agent telling her to make as much shit up as possible and to make sure she gets on the next passing bandwagon?

Its a difficult one this.

BatShite · 09/02/2020 21:09

20% of women have said they have been sexually assaulted

I would have thought that number was closer to 100% myself, depressing, but thats how it seems. I do not seem to have even one female friend who has not been sexually assaulted (or worse..) and I know many women. 20% would be a huge improvement from how it is now, for me and people I know anyway.

Doyoumind · 09/02/2020 21:29

I ended up in a JJ rabbit hole looking up some of those inconsistencies and discovered her attending an event the day after having teeth out with a bag of peas on her face 🙄. A couple of days later she was apparently on an IV drip and suffering from gastritis.

Regarding the deafness, she apparently had 70% hearing loss in one ear and 50% in the other.

She said in a tweet she had had breast reduction surgery but never seems to have mentioned it anywhere else ever, and it's at odds with a tumblr blog post she wrote about her breasts. She's also very anti cosmetic surgery.

I think there's a lot going on with her and it doesn't seem very healthy.

I still think she jumped on the queer bandwagon as it was an easy solution to the criticism she was facing and it seems she's doesn't have a problem with embellishing the truth somewhat.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 09/02/2020 21:44

As long as she's still getting roasted for being a raging hypocrite by the glitter family she shat all over women for, I don't much care what bullshit she has or hasn't said.

SD1978 · 15/02/2020 09:23

This is the huge problem with self ID. She's been turned on- horrendously, by those she been supporting for years- because she can't prove she is queer. Whole point of self ID and the 90+ made up genders is that you so t need to. So make up your bloody minds. Either she is what she says she is.......or you all have to accept that self ID is a crock of shit and you are born male or female and remain so.

Lordfrontpaw · 15/02/2020 09:39

I hope she is thinking about this (not sure if she is much of a philosopher) and her followers and seeing this too. It’s just a game to some people. Like top trumps.

Binterested · 15/02/2020 09:51

She’s not thinking about this. Latest is her mental health crisis - Julia Hartley Brewer is laughing at her on Twitter which I wouldn’t normally endorse but since she has shown such enormous contempt for anyone who disagrees with her on what women are I am happy for her to feel the full force of Twitter.

CallofDoodee · 15/02/2020 09:51

As long as she's still getting roasted for being a raging hypocrite by the glitter family she shat all over women for, I don't much care what bullshit she has or hasn't said.

Yeah, she threw women under the bus to look good for the exact people who are now giving her shit - hahahahahaha! And let's be honest, she has dished it out on Twitter enough, she should be able to take it.

Tbh, I think her focus has probably been taken off that now actually, as now she is focusing on the, ahem, inconsistencies about things she has said about her health

Lordfrontpaw · 15/02/2020 09:56

I assume if she is getting a paring she will come out as having some disorder or disease (‘poor meeeeee’).

I had a dog when I was a child. If you wanted to take her for a walk (and it was raining) or were eating some chocolate and not giving her any she would affect a pitiful limp and whimper (which would mysteriously disappear if you gave her a doggie chocdrop).

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 11/03/2020 22:50

I looked and didn't see a thread on this.
Wanted to add it here and not start new thread about what I've seen on twitter.

  • I was asked to do the big interview for @Playboy and said I would only do so if I could guest edit the entire magazine and fill it with my favourite voices and faces. The Free Speech issue is out next week. I love all the work they are doing to dismantle their problematic past.Red heart*

Is playboy ethical now? What have I missed?
Jameela seems to be talking about how SHE made the rules in regards to the interview, good for you that you can do that Jameela, not all of us can.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 11/03/2020 22:52

twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1237735703552950274

FloralBunting · 11/03/2020 23:11

She says: This was not a decision I took lightly. Their new trans positive, fat positive, lgbtq+, diverse and social political work is brilliant.

Sandwich Feminism. As in 'Make me a sandwich, love'. Seriously.

"I will agree to boost your publication because it supports all those dick centred things which fire up my feminist principles. We are in the vanguard, and we don't just want to destroy the patriarchy - we will Rebrand it! Enjoy your orgasms, boys. And your sandwiches."

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 11/03/2020 23:29

Fanny

One click on google images shows they are the same as they ever where.

Doesn't she have a young following?

Goosefoot · 12/03/2020 02:00

Playboy is one of those things that has a sort of oddly positive reputation, it's not at all unusual - at least in the past - for some pretty well known celebrities to appear in it or be interviewed. Do they even have a print version now? I think online porn has really hurt their business.

Lordfrontpaw · 12/03/2020 07:47

Just once I’d like to see one of there celebs who seem to think that they have unlimited talent to do whatever they want be giver actual free rein. No one handing over a choice of 3 to choose from, no team to hand hold, no one making all the decisions and just asking them to sign it off and take the glory.

I’m imagining magazines coming out like a child’s ‘my holiday’ scrap book will
Lots of photos of themselves cut out of magazines!

Danceswithwarthogs · 12/03/2020 07:50

Is this a bit like paying a climate campaigning celebrity large sums to endorse Airline/petrol company... Another well paid hippocrite who thinks they’re changing the world by putting their name/face on something.

Would we call it rainbow glitter washing?

Meanwhile the seedy end of the porn industry continues to exploit women unchallenged.

DickKerrLadies · 12/03/2020 07:51

Is she going to put Danielle Muscato in playboy?

Lordfrontpaw · 12/03/2020 07:52

So playboy is going for the young teen girl market then? Isn’t that her core following? 🤔

UpfieldHatesWomen · 12/03/2020 08:40

Oh the contortions a 'liberal feminist' will go through to make wads of cash from a deeply sexist media platform. She mentions in her tweet that she's featuring a disabled playmate, to prove that you can be disabled and still be sexy. Yay empowerment, you too can sell your body for money so men can wank over you. Jameela calls herself a 'feminist in progress', she (and the body positive movement in general) seems to have so much internalised misogyny that she knows that unrealistic beauty standards are wrong, but can't make the leap to understand that this isn't because it leaves out the women who don't fit those standards from being made into objects to wank over, but rather the sexual objectification itself is the problem. She can't see a way for women to define themselves for themselves, so she's still working within the male value of 'women need to be fuckable at all times no matter what else they do in their lives and this should be given utmost importance.' What a goon.

Lordfrontpaw · 12/03/2020 09:11

She’s not a feminist from what I can see. I would guess that she has very few, if any, female friends. I’ve worked with women like that.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 12/03/2020 09:54

I just don't understand.How can you say you've researched them and the are now doing good work and yet when you click on google images it's pages and pages of topless women.Reminded me of pornhub supporting the ocean clean up charity.

Siameasy · 12/03/2020 13:23

I will be happy when women’s appearances are no longer worthy of comment. I’m sick of the body positivity movement. More naked female bodies being commented on just with added spice.

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