Jameela Jamil comes out as queer

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twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1225165342965669888

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www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/jameela-jamil-comes-out-queer-amid-criticism-her-role-hbo-n1131141

“Actress Jameela Jamil formally came out as queer Wednesday in response to critics who attacked her role in a new HBO Max competition series, claiming her judging a voguing show wouldn't be representative of the black LGBTQ community in which voguing originated.”

And it seems the community are doubting her motivations, with IW questioning if she is in fact queer as she has a boyfriend (linked below), who then comes under fire themselves for bisexual, pansexual, etc. ‘erasure’.

I had to look up ‘queer’ to understand how Jameela was applying that label, so looked up PinkNews. Not terribly helpful but in essence “queer has become a useful umbrella term for some sexual and gender minorities who do not fit into the traditional categories around gender identity and sexual orientation.”
From Twitter I read it as “It’s usually an umbrella term for LGBT+ when someone doesn't want to disclose their sexuality/can't identify with a singular label but knows they aren't straight.”

www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/06/23/whats-the-difference-between-gay-and-queer/

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1225201756394659840

India Willoughby @ IndiaWilloughby
Replying to @ jameelajamil
Here you go, Twitter falls for it. SHE’S GOT A BOYFRIEND. You don’t think it’s odd she comes out as “queer” after being criticised for possibly taking a gay person’s place on a show? #Mugs #Coincidence #Gayface

I was also interested to learn the origin of vogue “Many felt that despite Jamil's comments, her place as a judge was inappropriate as voguing has its roots in the LGBTQ community. The dance style was part of drag competitions popularized by queer people of color and became ingrained in the community's culture.”

I am saddened that Jameela as a woman of colour has to take a third label to qualify for being a judge, and it seems a turf war could be breaking out.
Could this be the start of the backlash within the LGBTQI+ as the umbrella is now so vast, virtually all of us stand under it?

Queer seems to mean "identifies as non-straight". Straight seems to mean "those boring people over there, not interesting like us".

How moronic to point out she has a boyfriend and therefore question whether she is queer. Of course no gay man or gay woman has been in a relationship with a person of the other sex.

Lord tut tut - who's not kept up with their letters

PinkNews.... “queer has become a useful umbrella term for some sexual and gender minorities who do not fit into the traditional categories around gender identity and sexual orientation.”

Rando on Twitter "It’s usually an umbrella term for LGBT+ when someone doesn't want to disclose their sexuality/can't identify with a singular label but knows they aren't straight.”

She does realise that her tribe won’t be interested in her as she ages and isn’t a young and beautiful woman anymore - unless she has an amazing talent (think Liza, Kylie, Streisand...). I can’t think of any other older women like her.

there was a thread on twitter from a university lecturer who asked his students to define Queer and was completely agog at the answers. I wish I could find it - it was just full of the most bizzare things but it seemed to boil down to "anyone and everyone who is vaguley different to me"

This is pretty funny.

I do/did like JJ but had to unfollow her on twitter in the end because she got quite nasty. I really try to keep following celebrities who I used to like when they come out as believing in gender ideology because I want to avoid an echo chamber. But they invariably become nasty, almost like they are reading from a script.

Re queer, I suspect I am queer because I don't fancy people for their male gender. In other words I'm a dick fetishist. Don't kink shame me.

Oooh kinky😊

Queer, like Pan, has become a useful word for females being bullied as a means of trying to fit into a group the bullies don't target.

When people are afraid and harassed, they lie.

Now humming the tune from the musical on the it crowd that Jen tried to sing ‘willies, willies, I love willies..’

Same as me @stillathing

I admired her for her stance on the diet industry etc but she's become so hyper-aware of any perceived slight of any kind against anyone that it's exhausting watching her. God know what it feels like to be her. She's appointed herself as a guardian of trans people, and now that's being called into question she's disappearing instead of engaging.

It's obviously easier to preach from the sidelines than actually get into the messy muddy conversation and work out what your real POV is, not what will give you a fawning tween Insta audience.

I’m no fan of Jameela or ‘queer’, but bisexuals are allowed to have boyfriends. I interpreted it as that, although a theythem saga might be entertaining.

Now humming the tune from the musical on the it crowd that Jen tried to sing ‘willies, willies, I love willies..’

Watching that almost killed me as I had a laughing fit so hard I couldn't breathe. Genuinely scary!

It will be interesting to see if JJ is allowed to be queer as she's a female in her 30s.

I don't think she's bisexual. I think she's just trying to make herself appear relevant.

Here's another go at a definition. Queer seems to be people who are outside the category of:
Those who identify as being 100% heterosexual, identify as being 100% cisgender, adopt a 100% stereotypical gender presentation, and are attracted to people of the opposite sex who are 100% heterosexual, identify as being 100% cisgender, adopt a 100% stereotypical gender presentation, and that attraction involves a 100% vanilla sex life.

The real workable definition of queer would seem to be someone who says they are. (Unless the guardians of queerness say otherwise.)

Women seem to come off disproportionately badly in these public shamings unfortunately.

I dunno, the timing reminds me a bit of when Kevin Spacey came out as gay (except KS is an abhorrent person and JJ is not).

Like... why now? Just seems like deflection.

Yes I agree ChattyLion. Doesn't mean some women aren't dicks though. But still, the misogyny is always there.

'formally'

Well done, dear.

I think it means she's maybe bisexual, though I'm not aware of her ever having a relationship with a woman and she probably never has and possibly never will. I think it is to make her woke and interesting and as a response to the criticism around this programme.

I see her a lot on Twitter and she definitely pushes the wokeness too far.

It’s hard not to see her ‘coming out’ as an attempt at building a shield against the wokescolds. Not that ‘queer’ means anything in particular anyway.

It reminds me of that episode of Sex and the City when Charlotte meets a bunch of ‘power lesbians’

‘Before we all get on a plane together, there is something I think everyone wants to know... are you gay?’

‘No. No I’m not, but I do so enjoy the company of all these women. Everyone’s so smart and funny and I’ve been spending way too much time and attention on men. It feels like such a safe and warm environment, and while sexually, I feel like I am straight, there is a very powerful part of me that connects to the female spirit’

‘Sweetheart, that’s all very nice, but if you aren’t going to eat pussy, you’re not a dyke.’

m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHBjjIC9Eq0

I think ‘queer’ and ‘pan’ and ‘non binary’ and all that means ‘I’m not boring like my mum’.

Tolerable from the mouths of daft teenagers who need to distance themselves from parental figures on their route to their own identity in adulthood. Ludicrous from actual adults.

Don't be so mean. She has a career to think about here. It's a competitive industry. How else does she make sure she has an edge when last weeks next big thing is this weeks talentless has been?

It is quite possibly that, ie just a meaningless in-group signal.

If she were really bi, though, I’d understand why she’d pick ‘queer’ rather than being more specific. The woke scolds (love that term, btw) have always seemed deeply uncomfortable with bisexuality.

If she is queer (not a fan of that term but I’m old) I’m sure she would have informed us by now. She just wanted to win one of her tiresome twitter arguments.

One of the replies to her tweet basically says 'being woke as hell doesn't put you anywhere on the LGBQT spectrum' which I think nails it.