Julie Bindel bullying Posie

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FFS! Why did a she have to do this? It’s so divisive and gratuitously mean!
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Men do this so much less to one another. And they imply so much less guilt by association.

Imagine if every person who was friends with Weinstein or Epstein was automatically thought bad for women everywhere, a disgraced discredit. And they're not, at most it's considered one small aspect of who they were unless they were very close indeed. But not so with feminists! Share a stage with someone a bit right-wing one time and you're doing direct harm to the poor and discrediting the entire left.

You can literally associate with rapists and predators, and have men and women alike give you a free pass, while never giving you a free pass for associating with a woman who thinks differently.

I love them all in spite of and because of everything they do and say.
Women who are not afraid of acting like people in front of everybody.
It warms my frosty old heart. Especially when we make mistakes and learn from them.

Disapppointing there's such a long thread here.

Animosity between Bindel and Parker is for them to sort.

Parker is a free speech advocate. Good for her!

Bindel is a feminist who has spent her life working for and with some of the least privileged women in the UK. Good for her!

Stock is an academic who defends the rights of female academics to consider all topics philosophically, including the issue of gender. Good for her!

Hands Across the Aisle is conservative and liberal women working together. Good for them!

The Heritage Foundation allowed ROGD parents to speak in public about their experiences. Good for them in this instance!

And so on and so on.

There's no need to gossip about personal spats (which are par for the course in any movement) and there's no need to 'take sides'.

No American, snowbright, would look at that video of Sarah McBride and think she was being abused. What she was experiencing was how our politics works — in fact how our culture overall works. We’re not a people who stand on decorum and certainly we don’t much engage in politesse.

And lobbyists are public personae.

Ofthread you ask if a tweet about Posie is true. I doubt it. It sounds like a typical twitter rant that could be about anybody. It’s quite funny, the shrieking abuse poured out by people who accuse others of „hating”.

Theyrazedparadise and Creepster - I agree 100%.

"High profile feminists such as Julie Bindel, Kathleen Stock and Jean Hatchett have all publicly denounced her actions and called her a liability."

Not sure if any other than Bindel qualify as high profile

Julie may have taken her tweet down, but it's still doing the rounds on twitter. It's not a good look. A timely reminder to think before you tweet.

Posie has done a great job bringing people's attention to the topics and even been banned for doing so. I have no issue with her methods. I also liked when she confronted that American transwoman. These types of people should not be allowed to hide and hide what they're doing to destroy women and girls' rights.

I'd never even heard of Julie Bindel until J K Rowling followed her on twitter.

Imagine if every person who was friends with Weinstein or Epstein was automatically thought bad for women everywhere, a disgraced discredit.

Errrm bad example considering Prince Andrew is considered exactly that - a disgraced discredit. And he has denied everything, Posie hasn't.

Julie, great to see your apology, will you also take this moment to admit that last time Posie was in the US, you lied about her having a profile pic with Tommy Robinson? Would be a perfect time to explain why on Earth you did that!

I met Julie at a Woman's Place event last year and found her very unfriendly. She gave a great speech about supporting women and then when I approached her afterwards to chat was extremely brusque and unfriendly, which was disappointing, since I'm a (relatively) young feminist. I suspect it's because I didn't have the right "look".

*To clarify, the relatively young feminist bit is stated because I was hopeful she would see my greenness and be friendly and welcoming into the fold. That was not the case.

That's a shame @Confessions. First impressions last a long time. Don't let it put you off though, not everone is unfriendly. And don't be intimidated either: you have a voice and it is as valuable and equal as any other.

Julie, great to see your apology, will you also take this moment to admit that last time Posie was in the US, you lied about her having a profile pic with Tommy Robinson? Would be a perfect time to explain why on Earth you did that!

Hi Venice, Seeing as you're taking the moral high ground, can you explain why (in a conversation with Posie by the way) you accused a prominent GC feminist of lying about her cancer?

What's interesting for me here, is all these people commenting under their own names, yet only one person involved is unable to do so.

Though I doubt PP would come back if her ban was rescinded now.

Confessions I have no idea about Julie and don't want to speculate. However I had a similar experience (not with Julie) in a group many years ago when I was 19. It stayed with me for a long time so I can relate. Be yourself.

TBH, I'm not that interested in twitter bickering between women who all have strong opinions.

Compared to the sort of abuse they and us receive both on and offline from TRAs - including physical violence, I think they're able to handle it.

As many people have said better than me before, this isn't about transpeople - it's about safeguarding and free speech and I'm sure others could mention more. Women are allowed to agree on some things and disagree on others and they can get pissed off with each other as well.

Why are we, as feminists, expected to behave impeccably whilst prominent TRAs are celebrated for harrassment which goes far beyond a few mean words on twitter?

(More than just harassment, that sentence was heavily butchered in an attempt to be undeletable!)

What's interesting for me here, is all these people commenting under their own names, yet only one person involved is unable to do so.

I'm sure the mods will be delighted to explain once again why she was banned.

mnhq never comment publicly on why someone was banned.

mnhq never comment publicly on why someone was banned.

I seem to remember them doing before in this case.

I know what she was banned for - I know very well as it was on the same thread I got a suspension for myself

I didn't ask why she was banned - I commented that it was interesting (and perhaps unfair) that everyone can give their opinion here, including journalists, academics and activists under their own names, yet PP is the only one involved who is unable to