Julie Bindel bullying Posie

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FFS! Why did a she have to do this? It’s so divisive and gratuitously mean!
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I found this video and it's pretty heartwarming. Can't see how anyone could have a problem with Alex being a parent:

Coyo I thought dysphoria was classed as a 'condition' rather than a 'problem'.

Not sure why we're discussing adoption anyway, did Posie say something about it?
Sapp

Er, hello? You were the one who brought adoption up. By linking to a defunct thread most of us were not on in a smear attempt. That was yesterday. Did you already vaporize it down the memory hole?

Oh you mean the thread where I was called selfish for having kids in a lesbian relationship? (The selfish comments apparently don't count as one of the posters who made them is annoying) - yeah true there's mention of adoption on that thread. My DC aren't adopted though.

You don't hear much about trans people adopting through do you, I don't think it's very common at all.

That is not an argument. We all know that there has been a surge in young people seeking to transition. Posie, and many others, have expressed strong concerns. It does.not take much imagination to predict that in a decades time there will be a surge of trans and detrans people seeking to adopt, their fertility shot as a result of the various medical treatments they have received.

Many may make good parents. There is no reason why not. Many probably won’t have the opportunity. It’s about caring. I want adoption authorities to be able to make the right decision for a child, without tiptoeing around gender orthodoxy. I want young people to retain their open futures.

Posie has certainly talked about protecting ROGD kids. Right wing/left wing...it is so important that we stop this Stonewall shit.

Sap

Er, most of us weren't on that thread, you dredged it up to blanket smear people and now you're pretending you don't understand why the irrelevant topic you initiated is dominating the board?Soaking up all the oxygen talking tirelessly about yourself.....

..somebody here thinks this thread is about them (or is trying to make it about them).

There's a word for that.

I have written some mighty long posts!

Actually I think it is good when people with different views engage. A chance to clarify my own thinking.

Lol a bit rich Horse considering the amount of times I was badgered to share that thread! And the amount of times you claimed I was lying about it.

Er, most of us weren't on that thread, you dredged it up to blanket smear people and now you're pretending you don't understand why the irrelevant topicyou initiatedis dominating the board?Soaking up all the oxygen talking tirelessly about yourself.....

That was a very peculiar thread predicated on the premise that not only was it fine for the OP's daughter to be a lesbian (which no-one would disagree with) but that it was desirable and to be encouraged in preference to lesser and less desirable heterosexual relationships- which is a very different kettle of fish.

Needmoresleep I think fundamentally were coming from the same place. I don't think either of us would have a problem with the adoption arrangement in the video I shared of Alex.

An AGP MTF late transitioner with mental health issues would be entirely different.

Of course the child should be centered.

I know that Posie says the same thing about centering children but when in the same breath she also says trans men should be sterilised it makes me question her agenda.

Lol a bit rich Horse considering the amount of times I was badgered to share that thread! And the amount of times you claimed I was lying about it.

Ha, nobody called you selfish, and the person's posts you screenshot is er, hearhoovesthinkzebras, who is no more representative of FWR than the MRAs that come on here to argue with feminists.

Plus, if you get to the end of that (rather strange) thread- it had some extremely strange posts on it - you see a fair few actual FWR regulars agreeing with you and supporting you, and calling out hearhooves's posts.

*But you didn't bother screenshotting those, did you?

... and Posie Parker is no more representative of GC feminists than the MRAs she likes to make videos with!

and Posie Parker is no more representative of GC feminists than the MRAs she likes to make videos with!

She sure got under your skin though, so she's doing something right

Your "anti-FWR" posts here tell me you're more of an "L with the T" type person, than a "Get the L out" type person.

Lol a bit rich Horse considering the amount of times I was badgered to share that thread! And the amount of times you claimed I was lying about it.

You were asked by me and others to show who called you selfish and even the "hooves" poster (who i have an affinity with, sure) didn't go that far. Plus, you not only invent words that were never used about you but you also have a penchant for exaggeration - I suggested that you were telling "porkies" just the once and only once. For that I apologise. Let's agree that you did not actually lie about selfishgate but simply made an honest mistake.

Gish!

Oh you mean the thread where I was called selfish for having kids in a lesbian relationship?

No one called you selfish. Saying that a particular method of conception centres the adults involved rather and ignores important rights of children - rights defined by the UN as it happens - is not equivalent to someone calling you, as an individual, a selfish person.

This kind of personalisation of controversial social discourse is a real problem.

Your "anti-FWR" posts here tell me you're more of an "L with the T" type person, than a "Get the L out" type person.

Yep.

SapphosRock, what kind of problem is "gender dysphoria" then?

Or are you saying it isn't a problem? which would be news for the people who suffer from it.

Second this question you didn't answer Sappho. If it isn't a mental health problem, what kind of health problem is it?

The NHS aren't the be all and end all of knowledge, you know. Especially as they have been so comprehensively ideologically captured.

A high proportion of trans women have had mental health problems

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Thanks Horse apology accepted.

Zebra catch me on another thread about trans women in sport or strengthening the EA exemptions - I'm sure we have plenty of common ground.

Not everyone who speaks out against TRAs (ie PP) should be hero worshiped without question. It's surely not surprising that a lot of feminists don't like or agree with her.

Sapphos, in that case you also have common ground with posie.

You keep going on about what posie said in one twitter argument, the context of which has been explained to you at length on this thread and others - yet, you show no anger towards the ideology and institutions who are actually sterilising transmen.

It's entirely possible to have common ground with a person, yet also think they're a 'thick feck' as Julie so eloquently proved.

It's entirely possible to have common ground with a person, yet also think they're a 'thick feck' as Julie so eloquently proved.

Julie deleted the tweets and apologised on this very thread?