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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling

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MsMcWibble · 19/12/2019 13:02

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033
Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real?
#IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill

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WomanBornNotWorn · 20/12/2019 11:10

Quietly sensible comment by Corinna:

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Devereux1 · 20/12/2019 11:13

Are the women-only swimming sessions for Muslim women now going to allow half naked men in?

Tocopherol · 20/12/2019 11:15

Numerous comments claiming cis white women don't get sacked for being so.

Yes, that's right dears, no women were ever forced out of their jobs when they married...didn't happen.

ACouchOfOnesOwn · 20/12/2019 11:19

What I find more dangerous than the emotional blackmail and burning of books since most people will look at both of those as signs of a shaky grasp on reality is the posters with blue ticks and large followings who are lying about what the case entailed. They're pretending this is about Maya abusing a trans work colleague, refusing to use their pronouns and making them feel unsafe at work. Those sort of lies are shaping the ott hysterical response.

Needmoresleep · 20/12/2019 11:20

Mail comments are interesting.

Articles on trans-issues tend to get a lot of comments. Not as mad as some of the Brexit comments and not as informed as some of those in The Times. More what a sensible neighbour or relative might say when they first come across the topic. If you sort by most popular the top posts often get thousands of up votes, usually way more than twitter and plenty of shares. As we discovered in the election Twitter does not reflect voter opinions. (Sorry Owen.)

Something is happening behind the scenes. The first version of the story, the Maya verdict only, had loads of comments, of the "this is dangerous" variety. Then JK Rowling and all the earlier comments disappeared, leaving only a dozen rather odd ones about her being a billionaire, and an announcement that comments were being moderated. Now the story has switched to the abuse JKR is receiving and the confirmation by Julie Bindel that the debate is toxic, and only two , straightforward comments. It like the second, supposedly by Mr Boris Johnson "We each have an opinion, equally valid as each others." Methinks a journo trying to sound like his readers.

Curious though. Why did they pull comments? I guess that the Mail is not going to stand in front and run it as a campaign but is in support and will give the prominent coverage and commission people like Julie, with strong reputations beyond their normal constituency, to effectively write editorials.

Doyoumind · 20/12/2019 11:23

WTF IS TWITTER PLAYING AT?

The number of likes has now dropped by tens of thousands when I have gone back into Twitter. I really have had enough of their manipulation. It's wrong on every level.

JanesKettle · 20/12/2019 11:24

the posters with blue ticks and large followings who are lying about what the case entailed. They're pretending this is about Maya abusing a trans work colleague, refusing to use their pronouns and making them feel unsafe at work

A few posters have been spreading this fake news over on the AIBU thread.

JanesKettle · 20/12/2019 11:25

cis white women don't get sacked

They have never heard of pregnancy and maternity discrimination ?

Waspnest · 20/12/2019 11:26

I know what the blue tick means but how does someone get one? Who decides how famous someone has to be, I haven't heard of half of the blue tick people on the JK feed?

Clymene · 20/12/2019 11:32

It's quite easy to fake a blue tick

ACouchOfOnesOwn · 20/12/2019 11:38

Duncan Bannatyne has fought with the TRAs before about his gym. He's in a similarly fortunate position to JK, that he doesn't need their money and they can't report him to anyone. They muttered about boycotting his gyms but most of his gym users agreed with him so it had no impact.

It's funny they're arguing biological sex doesn't exist but they know to pile on JK and Amanda Abbington and leave Lawrence Fox and David Walliams alone. The ratio shows they absolutely understand sex and they know which sex they hate most and feel safe threatening.

mcduffy · 20/12/2019 11:38

Thingy Lord has one despite only having about 2.5k followers.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 20/12/2019 11:41

That's right, sex and gender wasn't even invented until the mid 90s. When was the Discovery of Bisexuality, again? Was it 2012?

Yeah, prior to 1995 babies were found under gooseberry bushes.

Imagine my surprise when I had to actually push mine out my fanny.

LemonGingerCakes · 20/12/2019 11:50

Thanks to the tweet, I found this website. I wish more could see it to begin to understand the depth of the problem:

terfisaslur.com/

LemonGingerCakes · 20/12/2019 11:51

Depth of the problem in trying to speak openly about this issue, I mean.

Needmoresleep · 20/12/2019 11:53

I just looked up Amanda Abbington on wiki, as I did not know who she is.

"Amanda Abbington (born Amanda Jane Smith; 28 February 1974) is an English actress and massive transphobe. She is best known for playing Miss Mardle in Mr Selfridge and Mary Watson in the BBC adaptation of Sherlock."

Oooh, someone is rattled.

I hope that does not last long...and MN mods feel free to delete this post.

fuckitywhy · 20/12/2019 11:55

Emma Watson has been very quiet.

I wonder what slogan she'll bounce around in this weekend.

ACouchOfOnesOwn · 20/12/2019 11:59

Amanda doesn't have JK's position or finances. I hope she's ok. StatisticsBritannia (don't know who they are but they have lots of followers) are spending a lot of time attacking her on Twitter. In fact, so much time, that it probably counts as targeted harassment.

Campervan69 · 20/12/2019 12:06

Ricky Gervais in support of JK

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TwatticusFinch · 20/12/2019 12:12

I hope that does not last long

I was just about to edit it but someone else fixed it first.

theunknownknown · 20/12/2019 12:13

I salute you JKR - I stand with you and I stand with MF.
And even better, my daughter does as well. Up to your tweet, she was a trans supporter and in the be kind camp.
Today, we have had our first discussion around this, brought up by her, where she was indignantly telling me of her support for you, your tweet and biological women's rights following an argument she had with a male friend of hers who blindly thought your tweet was transphobic.
You going public on this will make so many more women feel braver. I do. And I am so proud of my daughter.
Thank you

KizzyWayfarer · 20/12/2019 12:17

There definitely seems to be a widespread belief that Maya was sacked for harassing a trans colleague and refusing to use chosen pronouns. What actually went on with the colleague and is it right that they are someone who has previous form for targeting women?

Butchyrestingface · 20/12/2019 12:22

Mark Hamill has apparently liked JKR’s tweet?

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Butchyrestingface · 20/12/2019 12:24

Oh, he’s unliked it now. Sad

NightLion · 20/12/2019 12:26

Yep. Caved in to TRAs. Craven idiot.

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