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Spoilt votes - post them here so that the parties/papers can see them

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MrsFogi · 09/12/2019 22:51

I know there is a split of opinion about spoiling ballots vs voting for the least bad option.

If you do decide to spoil your ballot it feel free to post a photo of it here (be careful not to include any information that identifies you and in particular not to include the ballot's unique identification number) in case any of our loitering journalists wish to pick up the story or in the hope of giving the parties/candidates some pause for thought.

In case it is of interest (and you want a place to post your views for/against spoiling ballots), there have been a number of threads about spoiling ballots, a few links below:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3751902-Spoiling-my-ballot?pg=2 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3749890-Can-we-talk-spoiling-ballots-again-sorry
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3743237-advice-on-spoiling-ballot
Advice on Spoiling your vote

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howlsmovingcastle84 · 12/12/2019 17:20

I think we've witnessed the discovery of Schrodinger's ballot paper. The ballot paper that will take loads of people loads of time to read whilst simultaneously not being read by anyone.

MsMcWibble · 12/12/2019 17:20

I know Tired. Makes me wish I could go out and spoil mine again.

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 17:21

Legitimate form of protest 🤣🤣🤣it’s the cowards way out

Judging by your username you are a Labour supporter?

Perhaps then you come to my constituency in Liverpool and tell Louise Ellman Luciana Berger and Frank Field why you think their terrible experiences of bullying in their local constituency parties is acceptable and not warranting protest!

Shame on you to over-look the appalling conduct of many labour party activists - all in the name of Socialism and 'Hope for the Many'. I don't think so. What has been going on has been a disgrace; and the new candidates who have been inserted into these MPS seats are simply not as capable. Apart from Self ID, the Labour party is now fractured and undemocratic.

MsMcWibble · 12/12/2019 17:21

Hope We HAVE been doing something!
Where have you been?

howlsmovingcastle84 · 12/12/2019 17:23

Does hope think this feminism board was created this morning? Hmm

TiredofthisBS · 12/12/2019 17:23

Anyone else get the feeling that people are getting a tad concerned over our little acts of defiance?

Melroses · 12/12/2019 17:24

Exactly. I am not apathetic. I'm extremely politically engaged and furious

Exactly.

Makes me wish I could go out and spoil mine again.

Spoil your ballot paper early, spoil your ballot paper often Grin

Seriously, I have no reservations. That makes a change from previous elections where I have always voted for someone.

Justhadathought · 12/12/2019 17:25

All I’m saying is if you don’t agree with something then actively do something

And you don't think people have been " doing anything?" You really do seem to think you are in some way morally superior. You do know this forum is populated by many long term political activists, party members, trade unionists - of one shade or other, don't you? Who have been politically engaged for decades.

MsMcWibble · 12/12/2019 17:25

Women supposed to do as we're told. Is that being a liberal feminist?

VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 17:25

If you want to discuss your opinion you can start your own thread. Alternatively you can keep peek transing all over this one. Lots of women are now ready to listen this election when they weren’t there yet at the last one, and we know that mps come on here frequently to gauge where women’s heads are about political issues, that’s old news from shiny daves days*. So keep on battering women over the head for how we are doing women’s voting all bad bad bad. Just makes it more obvious that the awa are getting desperate now, which means the politicians know that popular opinion is changing, so those who are gc don’t have to fear for their lives to do their fucking job and speak up on behalf of women, and those who aren’t will be clicking at what a huge fucking % of votes will be up for grabs in future. So please keep at it because I’m pmsl at you right now and it’s the first funny thing in days.

perizadah · 12/12/2019 17:26

Just spoiled mine with a hurried “woman = adult human female”

Wishing I’d written more now...

Alltheprettyseahorses · 12/12/2019 17:26

Make my voice heard to myself, Hopeforthemany. When all candidates are unfit for office, I and others will let them know. Ballot spoiling is an active choice and is counted as even you are forced to admit. Interesting name btw, although it is the complete opposite of what Labour really is.

howlsmovingcastle84 · 12/12/2019 17:27

Tired
Labour are panicking. They assumed we would all cave at the last minute.

GCAcademic · 12/12/2019 17:28

All I’m saying is if you don’t agree with something then actively do something. Don’t leave it to the last day then scribble on a piece of paper and expect anything to change

You don't have a fucking clue, do you? You actually have no idea?

People on here have been "actively doing something" for years. Often at great personal fucking cost.

So you can take your patronising shit and shove it.

VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 17:28

As a side note (because I don’t want this in a thread to the dick heads)

  • makes me think of davedays from YouTube, which makes me feel old, and makes me wish Lisa Nova was around to do JS babbling about violent lesbians because fucking hell that would be funny!! Off to see if yt still has the ‘Lisa Nova has Davedays baby’!!
maidenover · 12/12/2019 17:29

There are so many important issues at stake in this election and you chose to waste your opportunity to vote over this.

I get you want to protest this issue, but doing it this way is a waste of time and displays a level of ignorance towards other vital issues, such as the NHS, education, social care, employment rights, climate change and more, that is astounding.

AbsintheFriends · 12/12/2019 17:30

I've given a lot of thought to how the suffragettes would feel about it.

I think mostly they'd be OK with it (it's important to remember that 'suffragettes' were not one homogenous lot, and there was a huge range of opinion within the WSPU and other organisations like the NUWSS.) They scaled the first, and steepest face of the mountain and raised us to a position where equality actually appeared to be a possibility, at least.

We're still climbing towards that mystical summit, but now our foothold - hell, our position on the mountain at all, to stretch the analogy - is becoming increasingly insecure, because suddenly the rules of reality have been changed, without anyone's say so. Language and biology have been redefined in a way I don't think they could ever have imagined in their most paranoid nightmares. And the political system they campaigned for us to participate in is colluding in the nudging of women towards the abyss.

I think the suffragettes - those smart, savvy women who together came up with innovative and extreme ways of getting their voices and their message heard - would agree that as the political system has begun to actively work against women, it's time for women to work against the political system.

TiredofthisBS · 12/12/2019 17:30

@howlsmovingcastle84 It would seem so! Good. Let them see how angry we are.

OccasionalKite · 12/12/2019 17:31

Vote duly spoiled, using stickers pre-written in purple and green.
NO to all candidates
NO to gender self-ID
NO to the planned erasure of women's sex-based rights
Women don't have penises
Woman = Adult Human Female
and one or two more.
It was the only legitimate choice for me, in the current political climate.

HandsOffMyRights · 12/12/2019 17:31

The Suffragettes were vilified - mainly by men, though other women would join in the witch hunt.

Caricatures of rabid, selfish, old hags who'd lost their minds. I've just been reminding myself of the propaganda.

Hope you would be one of those spinning yarns, painting women to be selfish and silly, hoping to put us in our place.

I've not seen any swearing. It's yet another myth you're force feeding on here.

Are you really that desperate to prevent women from exercising their democratic rights?

OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg · 12/12/2019 17:31

All I’m saying is if you don’t agree with something then actively do something

You’ve obviously missed the posts (mine included) outlining what else we’ve done? Writing to candidates, engaging with canvassers, reading manifestos? Not to mention all the dozens and dozens of meetings organised and attended, information shared, protests supported, policy changes objected to before today. What makes you think you’re the only one politicking the right way?

OvertheInfluence · 12/12/2019 17:31

Vote spoiled, I have never felt that I was so unrepresented in a vote before but not one party is an option I can consider in good conscience.

I hope to fuck that someone pays attention and actually starts to listen to what women are saying.

No to Self ID
Sex not Gender

VMisaMarshmallow · 12/12/2019 17:33

Wibble - you can, in every local election going.

I always thought I cared about politics, although made an effort to be informed, but rarely bothered voting in this. Sort a postal vote and you’ll never skip them again. Spoil every time and email round that you’ll vote for whoever stands up publicly and politically against self ID.

TiredofthisBS · 12/12/2019 17:33

Sounds familiar @HandsOffMyRights Grin Women rights are interlinked to the 'bigger issues'.

louiseaaa · 12/12/2019 17:33

Spoiled mine

And so did my 18 year old son, in solidarity

(naysayers can fvuck off>

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