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The FWR Magdelen Berns memorial awards for Feminism 2019 *Title edited at OP's request*

260 replies

TinselAngel · 05/12/2019 14:31

Now granted, I've not fully fleshed this idea out, but in the light of @theflushedzebra pointing out that trans activists never seem to stop giving each other awards, we should have our own virtual FWR awards for services to feminism in 2019.

As the founder of this ceremony, I expect designers will be queuing up to allow me to "wear" them.

Post your nominations below, and feel free to describe how fabulous you look at the ceremony!

My nomination for best British female solo artist goes to : Maya Forstarter for grace and clarity under considerable pressure.

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SidJS · 05/12/2019 20:09

What about the gift that just keeps giving award?

Yaniv etc... They rather help to make our point for us!

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/12/2019 20:10

Let's not forget @JustineMumsnet and @MNHQ for allowing the debate to continue here, despite all the slings and arrows.

TinselAngel · 05/12/2019 20:12
  • Would we have a corporate sponsor for the event? Who has been standing firm* Birdseye? Centre Parcs, The Spectator, The Economist.

We could have the awards at Center Parcs and then nobody would have to drive home? No bum sex for me though, please.

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Tootsweets23 · 05/12/2019 20:22

Amazing women! Dr Jane Clare Jones is my Twitter champion. Glinner obvs. Plus Rachel Rooney, Stephanie and everyone at Transgender Trend.

PurpleHoodie · 05/12/2019 20:26

No Oxo tower for you Tinsel?? Grin

Art awards. The Leeds Spinners?

Controversial maybe; Best Male Support Acts.

James Dreyfus
Fionne Orlander
Glinner
David Davies

OhHolyJesus · 05/12/2019 20:27

The gift that keeps on giving

Yaniv obvs
MCKinnon
Flying Lawyer
and quite frankly Twitter which keeps on showing it's misogynistic true colours day after day

womanaf · 05/12/2019 20:32

Posie Parker for inventiveness and taking it off SM and into the real world (mostly because she had to once she was banned from, uh, everywhere...)

Datun · 05/12/2019 20:42

What a fantastic thread. So very many women. Wonderful women.

Women who I would never have heard of if it hadn't been for this issue.

Brilliant stuff.

Up the RFFs.

TinselAngel · 05/12/2019 20:44

We'll project Posie's face on the outside of the building.

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HavelockVetinari · 05/12/2019 20:47

Harry the Owl deserves an award, surely? Him and Glinner have been amazing allies!

Posie for Standing for Women, Linda Bellos for being generally amazing. Julie Bindel because, well, it's JULIE BINDEL!!

CaveMum · 05/12/2019 20:50

Ricky Gervais probably deserves something for spreading the word about Yaniv to the widest audience. 13.4 million followers is not to be sniffed at.

ShiveringCoyote · 05/12/2019 20:50

Jean Hackett
Posie
Glinner
Sticker woman
Man Friday

theflushedzebra · 05/12/2019 20:52

Karen Ingala-Smith for services to women-only refuges.

And for collating the figures of women killed by men in domestic violence (because the government won't). kareningalasmith.com/counting-dead-women/

midcenturylegs · 05/12/2019 20:52

A vote for Dr Emma Hilton from me, as well as Rachel Rooney and Jessica Ahlberg for their fabulous new childrens' book

TinselAngel · 05/12/2019 20:54

Ricky Gervais probably deserves something for spreading the word

I'd say he could host the ceremony, but it should be a woman. I think I might give the gig to Kate Smurthwaite.

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Uncompromisingwoman · 05/12/2019 20:57

Has anyone mentioned Germaine Greer?

theflushedzebra · 05/12/2019 20:58

YY to Ricky Gervais hosting - it'll be a lot more memorable than the Pink News Awards "My name is Jeremy Corbyn and my pronouns are He/Him" YES Jeremy. We know. Grin

whitehandledkitchenknife · 05/12/2019 20:59

The 'Every Little Helps' award for the lurkers, non-lurkers and the small acts of courage everywhere, from Stickerwoman and leaflet drops to random chats at the hairdressers, the school gate and beyond.

womanaf · 05/12/2019 21:00

Man Friday can’t get any of the women’s awards, because they’re men, innit.

theflushedzebra · 05/12/2019 21:03

Unlikeliest Male Ally Award has to go to Brendan O'Neill.

I've always found him somewhat questionable, to say the least.

But here is absolutely hitting the nail on the head on Sky News.

Transcript:

"They're defending what a woman is, in a era when pretty much anyone now, through the transgender idea, can become a woman, or claim to be a woman, or identify as a woman. So this is a rebellious poster saying 'look, a woman is a very specific thing, and not everyone is a woman, some people are men and some people are women.' There was a complaint, as there is always a complaint these days and now it looks like the poster's going to be removed."

"What I think - it points to is two things. Firstly, that there is a very strong censorious streak in the politics of transgenderism, where they tolerate no criticism whatsoever. Also, I think there is a streak of misogyny in this movement, where I do think that this idea that womanhood is such a flimsy, shallow thing that anyone can adopt it and embrace it and put it on as if it was a piece of clothing, I think is a very sexist idea."

"Also, what it looks like is "woman" - the idea of a woman, the word woman, in this case - is being erased from public life by people who are either trans-activists or sympathisers to trans-activists who think it's unacceptable to say the word woman."

"It looks to me like women, these feminists, are right. Women are being erased under the pressure of what, increasingly, looks like a fairly tyrannical form of trans-politics."

whitehandledkitchenknife · 05/12/2019 21:05

Nominating The Resisters in the 'Most Inspiring Direct Action' category for their Adult Human Female T-shirt campaign. With a special commendation for clothing Sappho.

TalkingintheDark · 05/12/2019 21:07

What an utterly brilliant idea and thread - as others have said, imagine this in RL - if we could actually celebrate us in public the way other people can do!

What an amazing list of wonderful women. And a few good men.

I’d like to nominate Councillor Sarah Field of Leeds for best summing up of the whole issue in a single speech - and courage in the face of the toxic political landscape too, obvs.

This speech, which can always do with being reposted:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3595007-Leeds-Councillor-thanks-Mumsnet-FWR-in-gender-critical-speech

Thanks for starting this, Tinsel! ⭐️⭐️⭐️

ncGCfeminist · 05/12/2019 21:07

Men could be recognised as supporting actors.

Lang has been a huge inspiration to me - I think she deserves an award from the lurkers who has helped them stop dawdling too much from the foothills to perhaps pop a few stickers on lampposts here and there..

weebarra · 05/12/2019 21:13

I can't add anyone else to the wonderful lists already made, but thank you to you all for helping me think and realise that being GC is actually good and healthy and doesn't make me a bad person.
Rest in power Magdalen and Deborah.

YellaHumberElla · 05/12/2019 21:16

Hannah McGill for Best Radio Play

Achieving an amazing feat of new writing for BBC Fact to Fiction.