Posie Parker. For women and children. I adore her.

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That's all.

Sappho, please define the word "woman" for me without using the word woman in the definition.

I think 'adult human female' is the definition you're looking for. What point are you trying to prove?

Er, haven’t you grasped it yet? The paradigm is shifting. This is a question of freedom of speech and thought and as a consequence of both contemporary court cases, it has been amplified beyond any echo chamber. Douglas Murray’s Madness of Crowds is in every book shop. People don’t like compelled speech, especially when it’s used to force people to deny objective reality.

I suspect Little and Sappho know this very well. Rearguard action.

a dodgy individual

IKR?

Is it preaching to the choir or going out on a limb with racist/sexist men platforming you??

Echo chamber or an entirely different demographic?

Bubble or head above parapet?

It's a puzzle.

Lang, absolutely true. The majority of people, including me, have been sleeping through this regulatory capture. But lots of people are wide awake now.

Radical feminists argue girls are socialised to believe they deserve no better than to stay at home while a man goes out to work. It's one of the core concepts of it.

"Believe no better" -- please. Why do you think that raising small children at home deserves to be referred to as "no better"? You do realise that it's work, and for many of us the preferable choice?

what a dodgy individual PP is.

More nasty accusations, on what basis?

dodgy how so?

I think her narrative is completely transparent, and you are welcome to come make your points, whether they conflict with others or not, but mud slinging isn't making valid points is it?

Calling someone dodgy and continually arguing against anyone that appreciates PP for her forthright truths isn't furthering anything. Its just noise.

Doesn't sound like feminism to me degrading a womans position as a sahm.

Isn't it about women having choice and not to be discriminated against for that, this smacks of a whole lot of discrimination frankly.

Radical feminism is radical. That's the point. You don't have to agree with it.

Nobody is criticising the SAH mothers themselves, it is the patriarchy at work. Society is set up so women are expected to take on and embrace the role of SAHM and men are not. Socialisation is such that women do not even question it. It is set up by men to benefit men.

PP is very clear that she supports this patriarchal structure which is one of the many reasons I'm not a fan of hers.

No, I meant some posters here are only interested in preaching to the choir.

Although let’s not kid ourselves and pretend these alt-right fanatics were ever on board with trans, although it’s more likely down to a genderist position than a gender critical position that they refute the ideology.

I like Posie because she says what she wants without deference to others. If your feminism only includes confirmed labelled feminists, then your feminism isn't feminism. Feminism is about the liberation of ALL FEMALES, whether they agree with you or not, whether they are feminists or not, whether they have a different ideology or not! And there will be zero lasting rights for females until those fighting for female liberation come to accept this as fact. We are fighting the toxicity of identity politics gone mad, now so called feminists are policing feminist identity! If you fight for the rights of Females AND CHILDREN, then you are a feminist, in all but label. Nuance folks ... a white female supremacist may have an abhorrent view but she still deserves to be safeguarded from male violence. And if Posies voice reached just 1 female white supremacist and made her stop and think, then Posie's error in not researching was not an error but a win. When you only speak within your bubble and support zone, you are already speaking to yourselves! Duh! Nuance folks, nuance!

We've moved on from "she looks like a housewife" to "she behaves like a housewife". It's not exactly progress, is it?

Nobody is criticising the SAH mothers themselves, it is the patriarchy at work

Ah, SAHM’s have been duped by the patriarchy

Working outside the home is the only valuable way to spend your time people!

I meant some posters here are only interested in preaching to the choir.

What, by supporting Posie moving outside the echo chamber/choir/whateverthelatestis in her activism?

If you could get just a single line of argument straight, it would greatly aid a productive discussion.

In short, this is a handbook for lobbying groups that want to remove parental consent over significant aspects of children’s lives. A handbook written by an international law firm and backed by one of the world’s biggest charitable foundations.

Uttered damning.

The radical in radical feminism means radical as in root, not radical as in extreme

I think the ‘radical’ in Sapphos feminism means ‘liberal’ as in women should act more like men, that’s when you know they’re making the right choices!

PP is very clear that she supports this patriarchal structure

Citations, please! One quotation from Posie along the lines of a woman's place is in the home. Just one.

You're just making it up as you go along.

Winniefred it's likely your fictional white, female supremacist is already a transphobe but point taken - PP may well have rounded up a few hateful characters and persuaded then to join the GC movement.

Are they really the sort of people who are going to help in any way?! Or might they just whip up more anger and hatred? And make GC feminism appear to be full of white, female, supremacist transphobes?!

My arguments are perfectly straight, maybe it’s your comprehension that’s lacking?

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Say what now sapphos?

The radical in radical feminism means radical as in root, not radical as in extreme. It's an easy mistake to make...

Oh even i know this

And im a shit feminist...live off a man and everything

Working outside the home is the only valuable way to spend your time people

I did try...i just didn’t like it

We've moved on from "she looks like a housewife" to "she behaves like a housewife". It's not exactly progress, is it?

I've only ever mentioned PP's persona. Any mention of her appearance was by other posters.

I think 'adult human female' is the definition you're looking for. What point are you trying to prove?

No point. But establishing if you are a believer of magic or not.

You passed the test!