Posie Parker. For women and children. I adore her.

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That's all.

I like her brightness, strength and quick wittedness, but her anger is offputting. In all spheres angry activists are a bad idea. People need to find ways to put their points across respectfully or the message is diluted and becomes about the activist and their needs, rather than the cause.

Ah, Floral, they should be asking you instead of telling you since you are the expert on cults and they are the silly billy weekenders.

What is othering ?
She literally wrote a post explaining exactly what she meant.
Here just in case you missed it for example, bame women may feel ‘othered’ by the decision to work with white supremacists. Muslim women.

I'd have thought othered as in some feeling they're not important enough women to have a voice, that their rights don't matter, if he was to be a white supremacist oppressing bame women hey that's OK as he has the same stance on trans....

Well the comment I was responding too (I believe was by datun) was the first that mentioned ‘othering’ so maybe ask her?

What’s with the references to cabbage too?

What ?

Anger moves us to action. This is why little girls are taught that it is inappropriate.

What?

Perhaps you would understand my post better if you went back and read it and what I was responding too? I’m sure you’re an intelligent women that doesn’t need a complete hand hold.

I disagree, anger is about self interest and makes us want to harm others. Compassion is what moves us to meaningful action.

I agree that girls and women are discouraged from showing anger but I’m making a different point, that anger serves no useful purpose whatsoever, and I find angry men and women less credible.

What’s with the references to cabbage too

I wondered why you were being referred to as cabbage as well!
Thought I'd see if anyone else picked up on it in case I was told it was just me and my reading comprehension again.
Seems not seeing as you noticed too. Good, nice to see I'm not going mad lol

Second wave feminism wouldn't have got very far without women's anger.

Nor would the Suffragettes.

We didn't get our rights by asking nicely. Sadly.

But can’t you demand rights, be strong and forceful without being angry?

Well - you tell me. Did women get the vote when they asked nicely?

Link to "She's beautiful when she's angry."

Define anger. I mean, your argument sounds very zen and all, but you do realise that women who are strong and forceful are called angry, yes?

We're not talking about blind, unfocused rage. We're talking about injustice that you cannot allow to go un-noticed.

I disagree, anger is about self interest and makes us want to harm others.
I am speaking of righteous anger while you are speaking of self righteous anger. The difference is vast.

I didn’t say that they had to ask nicely! You can be strong and forceful, confident, persistent without being angry. They look and feel different. With our kids we can speak strongly to them, to show them what is ok, without being angry, but we modify how we say things for effect, out of our love for them. Anger is a mind that sees others as enemies and wants to harm them. I don’t think that kind of activism works, ultimately.

Read Floral's and Creepster's posts again, Merename - they explain it beautifully.

Yes, Floral, it’s true that women who are strong are called angry when they are not, and that is shite.

I’m saying that when posie becomes angry, she does become unfocused, I respect her more when she is clear and bright and think it’s unfortunate she allows anger to take over. She’d engage more people if she didn’t.

I hope I am not making any of you angry! That wasn’t my intention. I think it’s an interesting point and I’m happy to hear what you all think. Need to go to bed now though.

This is going to end up as a bloody semantic argument about the word "anger" isn't it?

I would say all civil rights movements are started up because of anger at injustice.

The idea that we would engage more people if we did not express our anger is a myth invented by men to justify ignoring us.

300 hundred thousand views. That is 300 thousand people who are able to contribute to the debate. Without her there would be 300 thousand people who where unable to hear an alternative perspective. Even if you disagree at least you have to acknowledge that Posie has put an alternative perspective out there. Every time posie has a thread i have noticed that the anti Posie brigade come out on mass. Why are you all so scared of her? Is it that she talks sense or is it that she has platinum blonde hair and she can’t be taken seriously. I would love her hair. Beautiful Posie

In my opinion, if you're not angry, you're not paying attention.

In that particular video, posie's anger was powerful. Her utter incredulity that anyone could display that kind of mental conflict was totally believable.

When Posie is going to her campaigns holding 5 foot tall posters of the horrifyingly mutilated arms of young women who want to be given some rolled up arm skin as a fake penis? - if you're not angry, there is something wrong.

These images are so distressing HQ will not allow you to link to them on this site. And, predictably, transactivists will claim that they are fake photos, made up theatre props. And have done so. On this site.

If you're trying to show people the result of this ideology, and you're not allowed, and people then claim it's fake because you can't provide proof, anger is the only appropriate response.