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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Marks and Spencer have fallen, part III; we’re gonna need a bigger boat

812 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 12/11/2019 00:47

Fresh thread in case part 2 fills up overnight.
I am yet to receive a reply to my third email, have been furiously tweeting, and as am now pursuing the options available to me as a shareholder.
Still crossing fingers for John Lewis!

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Mummyoflittledragon · 21/11/2019 10:34

How can we boycott each shop?
I agree. It isn’t possible to boycott each shop. Some time back it was discussed and agreed buy a few posters that M&S be the shop to be boycotted. I know it’s not ideal but targeting one shop will have more impact than diluting the cause.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/11/2019 10:35

By not buy. 😂 we aren’t supposed to buy....

WomanBornNotWorn · 21/11/2019 10:36

Having received a stock email reply to my complaint I read that they may be registering email addresses and not engaging again with follow ups. So I sent my response via my different email, got the acknowledgement and will let you know if I get a further reply.

SingingLily · 21/11/2019 10:48

It isn’t possible to boycott each shop. Some time back it was discussed and agreed buy a few posters that M&S be the shop to be boycotted. I know it’s not ideal but targeting one shop will have more impact than diluting the cause.

^This.

John Lewis is causing me consternation too but I've withdrawn from M&S completely and it has been my store of choice for thirty years. If M&S can be persuaded to see sense, that will be the time to turn our attention to other woke outlets.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/11/2019 10:50

Ooh that’s a point. Maybe we should be getting our partners or family members to send emails. Especially if they are male. I hate to say that but the demographic sending emails thus far seem to be the second sex.

BoogieFeet · 21/11/2019 12:34

Boycotting Ocado saved me quite a bit of money..boycotting M&S is going to save me a fortune. I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but I’d always go in if I went to town to have a browse/pick up some ready meals, and this time of year to get my Xmas cards/paper and try the Xmas sandwiches. It was the main go to store for the whole family for clothes but not anymore.

Have cancelled my sparks card and unsubscribed from the emails. Still being sent emails so I unsubscribe from each one and put ‘mixed sex changing rooms’ as my reason.

Pepvixen · 21/11/2019 16:41

Fyi rigby and peller are mixed sex too.

drspouse · 21/11/2019 17:45

I use a women only FB group for advice and then buy online.

SirVixofVixHall · 21/11/2019 17:59

I am boycotting M&S as a bare minimum. I spend more there than anywhere else I shop.

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/11/2019 18:05

I agree. focus on M&S. You eat an elephant one bite at a time. And that's the place I would previously have spent the most money.

SirVixofVixHall · 21/11/2019 18:18

I did ❤️ M&S. They have trampled all over my brand loyalty. Stupid, stupid move.

Nousernameforme · 22/11/2019 07:43

A quick question if Labour get in and keep sex segregated places like it says in the equality act does that mean that M&S etc are going to change back?
( I know officially they shouldn't be getting rid of them due to the equality act but thats stopping no one)

Uncompromisingwoman · 22/11/2019 07:49

I suspect that won't happen until the anti-woman charity that peddles all the misinformation about the equality act is held to account for their lies - or until the secret filming and perving on women reaches even worse levels than it already is.
Although, having looked at the amount of money that we spend at M & S - especially at Christmas - the boycott just might have an impact?

SirVixofVixHall · 22/11/2019 08:14

Labour have said they will bring in self id, and that transwomen are women, so their idea of single sex space is not single sex.

Justabaker · 22/11/2019 08:56

Got bad news ladies. Bravissimo has gone woke.

meaww.com/amp/lingerie-retailer-bravissimo-allow-people-identify-transgender-try-products-changing-rooms

Justabaker · 22/11/2019 08:59

@SirVixofVixHall

You're quite right. Several people, including @Jeanhatchet, have dug all the way down in the manifesto. sex = gender. Self ID. FFS.

Ineedcctv · 22/11/2019 09:57

Does anyone know if this is happening in other European countries, or is it just here?

NumbersStation · 22/11/2019 10:22

I’m still boycotting. 😡

Go woke. Go broke.

SirVixofVixHall · 22/11/2019 10:40

Bravissimo can fuck off. I mean their whole target market is women with large cup sizes. I feel for the staff in these cases, forced to fit bras on blokes because “feelings”.
Also the obfuscation....trans identifying female people in Bravissimo, fine with me obvs. Non binary people ? What does that mean Bravissimo ? Females who wear trousers and have short hair ? Eg most women ? Or men with beards who want to trample all over women for kicks ?
When will people wake up and see this whole agenda relies entirely on sexism.

NumbersStation · 22/11/2019 11:40

The staff don’t matter. As long as the mansuits can pat eachother on their woke little backs.

Meanwhile some poor soul will be trying to manoeuvre a moob into a g cup and trying to ignore the other chubby thing pressing into her leg Sad

Justabaker · 22/11/2019 12:56

@NumbersStation - so true but so gross.

Uncompromisingwoman · 22/11/2019 13:01

Here you are - here's another chap those still shopping in M & S can enjoy sharing the changing rooms with:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7714375/Decorated-GCHQ-employee-39-released-spending-terrible-night-jail-filming-women.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_desktop_news

NumbersStation · 22/11/2019 13:09

Having once had a senior who did that kind of thing with alarming regularity, I can only agree.

Oh for the auld gobshite that I am now to meet with him back in the day. Sadly I was 19 and a mouse.

It is gross and I’m sorry. But it happens and will happen in those changing rooms. Again by men who are old enough to know better, act better, BE better and who will wave the senior/persecuted/discriminated cards with gay abandon when challenged.

The ones who want to feel like women? They need to feel how it is to walk in our shoes, having their right stolen and then hook their bellies up into a bra and say it feels good.

Raging and sad.

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/11/2019 13:11

Uncompromising
That deserves a thread all of it’s own! Could also help to peak self Id another set of mumsnetters. How disgusting that he is free....

NumbersStation · 22/11/2019 13:12

And the appropriate action was to let him walk free. Hmm

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