Marks and Spencer have fallen, part III; we’re gonna need a bigger boat

[MrsSnippyPants]

Fresh thread in case part 2 fills up overnight.
I am yet to receive a reply to my third email, have been furiously tweeting, and as am now pursuing the options available to me as a shareholder.
Still crossing fingers for John Lewis!

oh no, not you JL
soon we will be weaving our clothes and grow own produce/ raise livestock
Not bad for the planet I suppose.

I think they are hoping that all other retailers will follow suit, and that as women will need to shop somewhere, they won’t lose much business.

This would have been unthinkable only a decade ago. I am furious at the total lack of regard for their female customers .

The timing of this is feeling suspicious to me now. If M&S already knew that other similar companies had similar policies (would have been easy enough for them to find out) then maybe they announced this right before Christmas on the principle that, well, women will need to buy gifts somewhere, and when we start asking around we'll find that there are no alternatives with guaranteed to be Wanking Men free changing rooms.

You could be right, they think name and loyalty will make up the difference in safety and women’s rights.

Sadly I think even if they ever did make a concession and offer a female sex only space broom cupboard in the loading bay. There would still be some people who want that space and not leave it be until there was no third option at all. But I can’t even see the broom cupboard being a possibility any time soon.

Sad thing is for Disabled people they will have even less of a choice as smaller and independent shops are far less accessible and in many cases not accessible at all. Sadly this is not on trend or top of anyone’s to do list nor is likely to do in my life time.

Spotted Pervy in Morrison's today

www.orchardtoys.com/buy/pigs-in-pants_22.htm

I read somewhere that Debenhams were still okay. Is that true?

I emailed them today to ask. Not holding my breath for the response though.

TimeLady

For whatever good it might do, I've emailed John Lewis, specifically the Managing Director of JL, [email protected]
and added in Chairman of JL Partnership [email protected]

also Director of Personnel of JL Partnership [email protected]

and finally Deputy Chairman of JL Partnership [email protected]

I added the Director of Personnel due to the vulnerable position that shop floor partners may well be put in.

Although John Lewis is not an everyday shop for me, it's 2 hours at least to the nearest, but waitrose is only a 10 minute walk and I spend soooo much money in there, not least tonight's pizza, salad and birthday cake, it will be so hard to add them to my boycott list.

But like a previous poster said, I bear a grudge - some boycotts gave lasted decades, and my dds are carrying them on.

This. This is what men do in mixed sex changing rooms.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6796451/Surrey-father-two-jailed-posting-46-upskirt-videos-London-Underground-adult-website.html

Justabaker: The pharmaceutical expert from Surrey claims his business has been ruined

Ahhh. My heart bleeds for him.

Is there anywhere we know we can go to try on clothes in a single-sex space? I'd love to support them - and tell them why.

I am so so angry and pissed off at this.

Chilling to think that M & S and John Lewis will make that man specially welcome in the women's changing rooms. I wonder which Wimbledon shop changing room he filmed the woman in her underwear in - there's certainly an M & S there?

I think we're going the wrong way about this. So instead of being offended, we should be emailing our sheer delight at being able to use the changing rooms to indulge our fettish.
Which style of knickers will best accommodate my e*, and do you charge if I stain garments that I don't purchase ?
Actually I am making myself sick 😷 here

Using the men's. It's the only way. Trying on bras and frilly knicks.

No one gives a fuck what women think.

They will care what men think.

Absolutely Datun, if men choose to use ladies facilities then they are the kind of men I choose to avoid. So the men's room is the place to go

I know nothing about shares and the market but thought would look anyway. Over 5 y view

One year and last month trend. Oh dear, the only thing I know about maths is it should be going the other way!

James Max on Talk Radio had something on M&S at just before 6.30 this morning but the alarm had just gone off and I didnt catch it. He sounded on our side but weirdly the Talk Radio archive doesn't have his show today

AllMums

Little Chef wouldn't serve Greenham Women, our boycott took a while to take effect but .......

You know Datun, I've never really realised just how little women's voices count until now.

Women's rights - fought for over decades, centuries even - for the past 5 minutes, born males decide they want to be called women too - and everyone's straight on it! "Move aside women! These males say they're women too now - it's their identity, bigot!"

You know Datun, I've never really realised just how little women's voices count until now.

Me neither. I think the whole trans ideology issue and quite how unfair it is on women, has been a massive eye-opener for a lot of women. The fact that it wasn't immediately nipped in the bud has alerted many women to their second-class status.

As I've said before, this issue is creating feminists hand over fist 😊

My stepmother, lifelong feminism refusenik, got angry about seeing toilets labelled Men's and All Gender and has been pissed off about the trans related stuff ever since. She may not be willing to call herself a feminist yet but she's thinking about the issues and she's not happy. She's not the only one.

If this was meant to be the final blow in the war on women then damn did they ever miscalculate.

The fact that it wasn't immediately nipped in the bud has alerted many women to their second-class status.

I’m a 70s child and when I was growing up felt society was changing for the better, believed women were being recognised as equal to men.
The last few years have shown me it’s all been just a sham, a game for some men and they are now showing us what they have actually thought all along. Women are second class citizens, women have no rights other than the scraps men deem fit to give them ....... or so they like to think. Wankers.

I have served my country. My country mind you. They didn’t mind that I was a woman. I served as an equal. I served the Queen. A woman.

And for what?

To be told I’m bigoted, prejudiced and a disgrace to society when I question why my rights as a woman are being whittled away and when I question why the men should do as they please.

Thank you for that.

But remember I enlisted for my country. Not just for the men.

And not for the men who sit on boards and committees and those in positions of power quietly suppressing half the population because they do not like the fact that women are just as talented and intelligent as them.

And certainly not for the men who choose to come in to our safe spaces because they say they can.

The shame is theirs.

Boycotts. A short family history

My mother joined the Nestle boycott in 1977. We, her children, were not pleased. No more 'nesquik' chocolate milk powder (that hurt), no more of some of our favourite cereals, no more of some favourite candies. She explained how Nestle marketed powdered baby formula in Africa especially. Powdered milk where there was no clean water. Whilst not ecstatic life went on and we got used to it.

42 years later - I do not knowingly purchase Nestle products. No KitKats. No Nespresso. (We did eventually get a machine but not until there were other brands available). No cereal. No 'Toll House'.

DM died in 1997, still miss her every single day.

The current list: Nestle, M&S, Gillette, Victoria's Secret, most Unilever brands (still haven't found a substitute for Fairy). Looks like I will need to add JL and Waitrose.

Well a PP mentioned growing our own food and weaving our clothes. Better get started knitting knickers. I know how to hold a grudge.

Mom would be proud of me.