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Judicial review for woman prisoner alleging sexual assault by trans rapist in prison

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realitycalling · 03/11/2019 08:29

The Sunday Times reporting a long overdue judicial review after an (alleged) sexual assault on a woman prisoner by a male born trans rapist who had been placed in a female prison. (trying to be careful with language given the oppressive monitors who try to control this board).

And they've reported on the Centre Parks issue as well as a prominent article about that major brands like Unilever and Heinz advertising on Pornhub that's awash with child sex abuse. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/female-prisoner-takes-government-to-court-after-alleged-assault-by-transgender-inmate-n5wtg2nf7?shareToken=f2e99b28b2f234eb7e84b0c4484e7254

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MrGsFancyNewVagina · 03/11/2019 15:46

Thank you LangCleg. That was an interesting read.

Mamello · 03/11/2019 17:24

The Halloween document repeatedly stresses the risk of suicide for transgender prisoners. We know that self harming is at around 46% for women prisoners. Do transwomen prisoners have a lower or higher risk, do we know?

realitycalling · 03/11/2019 17:37

Interesting comments. It's worth considering that, as the police now record the identities of rapists and paedophiles as whatever sex they claim to be, all of our data about sex offending is presumably now totally screwed. How this will impact on the numbers of rapists being housed alongside vulnerable women is anyone's guess - but given that the Ministry of Justice has an evident campaign to compromise women's safety in prison, it's likely to get worse for vulnerable women.

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Melroses · 03/11/2019 17:45

Page 4 here

Ruby on page 20 is interesting, especially the end paragraph. Hmm

Also followed on the next page by a first-time experience in women's prison which I would think is rather inviting for those in male prisons that wish to move.

LangCleg · 03/11/2019 17:58

Ruby on page 20 is interesting, especially the end paragraph.

A real advert for transfer to the female estate.

(Not.)

Melroses · 03/11/2019 18:16

If you want to go there, instruction on your rights on page 45

TemporaryPermanent · 03/11/2019 18:33

A modest proposal. (That means this is political satire/black comedy which could never be true, for our monitors).

How about we just assume that all prisoners in the female estate were born male?

That women born women have a 0% crime rate?

That any woman born female who somehow gets arrested should immediately be released, because she is obviously innocent?

Seriously. Fucking with statistics and evidence is not a game. Whatever your beliefs in female souls, you dont have a right to screw our ability to make sense of the world.

SetYourselfOnFire · 03/11/2019 18:34

I appreciate the appeal to sympathy for regular transgendersespecially teens but are we seriously supposed to care that RAPISTS are offing themselves in prison? Good!

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 03/11/2019 18:40

poor Ruby seems to think that hormone treatment will result in them producing ova

if so they have obviously been catastrophically badly advised.

PhonicTheHedgehog · 03/11/2019 18:45

I’m assuming prisoners share cells in women’s prison? Would a female prisoner ever be put in the same cell as a trans woman prisoner?!

2BthatUnnoticed · 04/11/2019 09:02

Inmates have raped women in Canada

the only response is, they made the morning after pill available for free

Women are begging for help

This one was a year ago

The Authorities are co-signing rape, this is the Catholic Church all over again - THEY KNOW AND ARE LETTING IT HAPPEN!!!

Judicial review for woman prisoner alleging sexual assault by trans rapist in prison
Judicial review for woman prisoner alleging sexual assault by trans rapist in prison
2BthatUnnoticed · 04/11/2019 09:09

That tweeter is a former inmate and now an incredible activist: she was in there and has friends still in there

I’m wondering if she should go anon for safety (please don’t mention her name, should I ask it to be deleted??)

ChateauRose · 04/11/2019 09:55

A trans prisoner in a Scottish prison, apparently "had sex" with female inmates. I'd call a male having sex with women locked in the same confined space as rape.

ChateauRose · 04/11/2019 09:59

There are currently 15 MTF trans in Scottish prisons, none of whom have had surgery and all who have their penises and testicles intact:

stv.tv/news/politics/1439716-concerns-over-housing-trans-inmates-in-women-s-prisons/

Some of these males have threatened to rape guards and prisoners.

NonnyMouse1337 · 22/10/2020 16:37

Update from Keep Prisons Single Sex

twitter.com/NoXYinXXprisons/status/1319276254042861575?s=20

This case is being heard in the High Court next week.
A female prisoner who was sexually assaulted by a male prisoner convicted of rape who was imprisoned with her at HMP Downview.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/female-prisoner-takes-government-to-court-after-alleged-assault-by-transgender-inmate-n5wtg2nf7

twitter.com/NoXYinXXprisons/status/1319276695803678720?s=20

We will be launching our website next week to coincide with this Judicial Review and will be launching a comprehensive campaign to fight for the right of female prisoners to the single-sex spaces, services and communal accommodation that they are entitled to under EA.

PearPickingPorky · 22/10/2020 16:54

Excellent news.

Thank you for the update.

Will people be able to attend? Or will it be held in private?

BettyFilous · 22/10/2020 17:01

Good to hear this is being heard in the High Court. Let us know if any gardening is required.

ThinEndOfTheWedge · 22/10/2020 17:16

Wishing all the luck.

Damning indictment on today’s Britain and the rest of the progressive woke world happy to sacrifice the rights of vulnerable women that something so awful and utterly predictable was enabled to happen in the first place.

ArabellaScott · 22/10/2020 17:17

I hope this is reported on. I've a feeling people just don't really care very much about women in prison.

NonnyMouse1337 · 22/10/2020 17:26

I think it might be held in private. It's been quite difficult to find much info on it, but I'm hoping it will be reported on by the press.

Facefullofcake · 22/10/2020 17:32

@Smallblanket

How about it being a condition of having a GRC that it is rescinded on convicted of rape or sexual assault. And that a conviction for rape means you are ineligible for a GRC.

Just a suggestion...

Wouldn't work for the person who was convicted of attempted rape, but claimed their inability to maintain an erection was related to gender dysphoria. They also claimed they committed the crime in order to return to prison and get their transition sorted by the state while inside. They also claim to be a trailblazing pioneer in terms of trans women on the female estate.

This all needed stopping decades ago.

Facefullofcake · 22/10/2020 17:44

^ note: they were the first legally recognised trans prisoner, back in 2009.

Apologies for going over old ground, and bringing specific examples in

Thanks pp for updating us - I'd happily donate to anyone challenging the current system.

JamieLeeCurtains · 22/10/2020 17:56

Ffs what is this government playing at? They could have sorted this out already.

I bet Amnesty say fuck all except woke blah.

Looking forward to the website.

Facefullofcake · 22/10/2020 18:01

@ArabellaScott

I hope this is reported on. I've a feeling people just don't really care very much about women in prison.
I know too many people who only care about the women who..er.. wouldn't have been in a women's prison pre 2009.
MissMarplesGlove · 22/10/2020 18:03

but claimed their inability to maintain an erection was related to gender dysphoria. They also claimed they committed the crime in order to return to prison and get their transition sorted by the state while inside

This is like every single hokey Hollywood "man finds himself" movie:

In order for the person to become a hero, a woman must die.

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