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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Littlbrowndog MIA

349 replies

LangCleg · 21/10/2019 15:52

Has anyone heard from her?

The last I saw she had lost her login and had made a new account.

I miss her. I hope the confusion hasn't seen her suspended.

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zebrasdontwearbras · 23/10/2019 21:30

Oh and there's me joshing around on another thread. We're not allowed to joke on fwr anymore are we? Probably be banned...

LangCleg · 23/10/2019 22:20

Oh not Fekko too?

MNHQ - this is getting ridiculous.

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RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 23/10/2019 22:25

fekko ?????

HandsOffMyRights · 23/10/2019 22:28

Look at the thread about what's being taught in schools. I don't know what Fekko posted but the eyes must have reported it and had it removed in record speed.

HandsOffMyRights · 23/10/2019 22:33

Loads of deletions on the Always thread for mention of a traditional (Scottish?) word for a male that rhymes with baddie.

RufusthebewiIderedreindeer · 23/10/2019 22:47

This is ridiculous

PencilsInSpace · 23/10/2019 22:48

Well this stinks.

I really miss LBD's posts and can't imagine why Fekko is gone. I have seen some posts which got another poster suspended and there was nothing wrong with them. The only way someone could have taken offence is if they find biology itself offensive.

I don't know what is OK to post any more. I haven't felt this uneasy about moderation since posters were being deleted for 'bless' and 'yawn'. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells. I seem to remember @MNHQ making a film about that.

zebrasdontwearbras · 23/10/2019 22:54

It all stinks. Walking on eggshells is correct. Fekko shouldn't be gone. Nor should LBD, it's all a bit over zealous.

Butterisbest · 23/10/2019 22:56

Yes, Pencils wasn't that film about coercive control. That was about the time that Barracker was banned for the pronouns are like diamonds post.
I reposted that post with another word, several times, not deleted then. Different user name then.

HandsOffMyRights · 23/10/2019 22:57

And MN isn't telling everybody that they've had a deletion - not giving posters the chance to reply/dispute the deletion or simply abstain, because we don't know what can be posted without a ban.

Butterisbest · 23/10/2019 23:08

Fekko's account isn't receiving emails. So that looks like another ban

HandsOffMyRights · 23/10/2019 23:13

I think MN deleted two posts early evening - starting with the what's being taught in schools thread (which was zapped instantly as I had refreshed my page to read it and it had gone) and then the Always thread.

I've noticed that the satirical/humorous posts are really hitting a nerve today.

Attwood's most famous quote springs to mind.

Needmoresleep · 23/10/2019 23:30

Fekko...demote her perhaps, but not a ban.

Needmoresleep · 23/10/2019 23:31

Is it something to do with identifying as a penguin?

Butterisbest · 23/10/2019 23:50

@MNHQ
The judgement in the Yaniv case has made headlines. The blatant misogyny with the cyclist has also made headlines. So the Twitter scrutiny here will be much higher than usual.
Is this a site where women can talk together about their concerns with the ramifications of self identification. Where Mothers can express their concerns about the rapid onset of gender dysphoria in their children and be bloody worried about the consequences to their children of being given unregulated drugs. Or not even their own children, any children that are risk of being sucked into this horrific fanatical ideology.
When women are fucking terrified about the next step. Which will be the erasure of women as a class.
Women should not be coerced into using incorrectly sexed pronouns. It's revolting that I have to refer to McK as ..... if I referred to McK as born sex, it would be deleted. Can't you see that FWR has devolved, with it's Special Rules into a place where women have to lie, use diamond pronouns, deny the evidence of their own eyes. Kowtow to the coercive control being enforced by the activists.
Or is this a site where, as the users are the product, they're expendable. FWR is a hugely controversial topic for Mumsnet and many of the most vicious and vocal activists would like to see it disappear.
But I'll bet it gets the most hits.
Your call

BadgertheBodger · 24/10/2019 00:02

Fekko as well?? Shock FFS her posts were always very measured I thought, with a good dose of humour thrown in.

MNHQ are treading a very strange line here. FWR brings in teams of traffic as we know, but that’s not because it’s a “safe space”. It’s a clever, challenging, thoughtful, brilliant, FUNNY space populated mostly by women. I realise there are a lot of men and TRAs who hate this space because of that, but I am still at a loss as to why MNHQ capitulate to the demands of those who seek to destroy change this space beyond recognition.

@MNHQ could you possibly consider just letting us tell the truth? It would be much simpler, although I understand it wouldn’t be an easy path to walk. I have to ask though, is the path you’ve chosen an easy one? Seems to me you’re getting shit despite trying to appease the Monitors.

WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 24/10/2019 00:02

Butterisbest
Well said.

Ol Fekko and Lbd, they'll be lurking,
I hope they come back.

Karabair · 24/10/2019 00:32

It's interesting that the monitors don't come here and debate with or argue against what they perceive as "trasphobia" but merely hit "report post".

They might be able to silence women, but they won't stop people's thoughts and most people are not going to swallow the trans line, no matter how hard it is being pushed. If the cause is righteous they should be making the arguments in order to get people onside. Instead they're using rules and enforcement to promote their case. In the long run it's not going to work.

GrinitchSpinach · 24/10/2019 03:27

What on earth? lbd and Fekko have been two distinctive voices worth reading so I can see why they attracted the attention of the monitors.

I don't know what is OK to post any more. I haven't felt this uneasy about moderation since posters were being deleted for 'bless' and 'yawn'. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells.

Yes... We never did get an answer about why posters aren't always being notified of 'strikes', did we?

GirlDownUnder · 24/10/2019 05:50

Blimey! Littl and Fekko are moderate and fair posters.

This thread asking the same questions, and for an update on the 27th of Sept. was met with tumbleweeds from MNHQ.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3674784-Deleted-posts-Suspension-warnings-FWR?

I’ve taken to posting more on other forums - same messages as I’d post here except I’m not censored, so the Monitors are failing in shutting us up, because we’ll go talk where they can’t report us.
I guess this is why they get so mad at us here because they can’t shut us up everywhere.

Toothpaste is out of the tube now tho, far too much hitting the headlines for the general population to ignore.

Also, the Monitors should remember Twitter only ranked 12 on social network sites worldwide as of July 2019, so that combined with huge block lists, it is pretty much an echo chamber.

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We’ve lost so many brilliant posters here, I hope Littl and Fekko can come back, but I’m sure they’ll not be quiet for long.

Matereality · 24/10/2019 07:21

The monitors don't understand that targeting reasonable posters until they are banned motivates lurkers. We see. We are horrified and we step up.

WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 24/10/2019 09:18

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LangCleg · 24/10/2019 09:48

Funny, sweary, rude and sarcastic is the MN USP.

Completely nuts that MNHQ would aid its own destruction.

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WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 24/10/2019 10:26

The last few days have seemed a bit different though.

Its Thursday though and the weekend is almost upon us...

ErrolTheDragon · 24/10/2019 10:29

Lass wasn't actually banned, afaik, I think she jumped before she was pushed. She seemed to be a target, understandably, for MRA types.