Always (sanitary towells) forced to remove Venus logo

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From The Fail unfortunately maybe someone can find another source but I cant see one atm.

Transgender lobby forces sanitary towel-maker Always to ditch Venus logo from its products

Sanitary towel pad maker now kowtows to transgender activists born female
They removed the feminine Venus symbol from its products after complaints
Butmany of Always’s female customers have responded angrily to the move
Sanitary towels with the new packaging will arrive in the stores by January 2020

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7592413/amp/Transgender-lobby-forces-ditch-female-logo-sanitary-towels.html

My new ones are plain with daisys on the box Chemical and smelly free. Organic and vegan, no plastic. Gives money to charities. Company set up by a woman. Says woman in the website.

I’ll let you know how I get on (fellow ‘The Shining’ period ensurers).

Well, I'm going to hoick up my judgey pants and point out that if TM were being ecologically friendly and using mooncups or reusable pads this wouldn't be an issue.

Twenty seconds on Google image search suggests there is currently a gap in the market for reusable pads in an array of sludge colours and monster truck patterns. Some enterprising young person could make a fortune.

It's means nothing to me

Ah Vienna.

They can rebrand as 'Never' because that's how often I'll buy these.

Honestly if some people’s sense of emotional equilibrium is so bad that they find a signifier for women on a pack of Always sanitary towels upsetting, then I can’t imagine how they manage to watch TV, look at other people in the street, go to an art gallery, read a book which says the word ‘woman’ in it, catch a bus (which might have adverts on) or hold down a job that they aren’t entirely in control of what they have to do. It must be awful.

Serious emotional problems need to be talked through at length with a professional. It would not be possible to erase women symbols from the world anyway, but even if it was, why would anyone seriously expect that will make them feel better?

Censorship isn’t a medical treatment.

So many different products to boycott though - anyone recommend a substitute for Head and Shoulders? And I really liked Fairy dishwashing stuff - however, no more.

www.pg.co.uk/brands/

Remember in the old day on here when someone would come on and say it get so jealous when I see pregnant women - I can’t be around them’ - and everyone would say ‘that’s a shame - but get a bloody grip woman!’.

The good old days. Now it’s ‘let’s all pretend not to be pregnant or talk about babies in case someone gets upset’.

I'm now period-free (yay post menopause I'm FREEEE) but I'd have bought Star Wars theme packaged sanpro.

I'm not a feminist by any means....I am a woman who feels that woman are being erased.

I will NEVER buy ALWAYS again, and nor will my teenage daughters.

That’s a feminist then...

Anyhoo - Always Never actually got back to me! ‘Take the customer satisfaction surgery to tell us how brilliant our customer services is.’ Ok then...

Just read about this on Huffpost

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/always-ditches-feminine-symbol_uk_5dad6952e4b0f34e3a788e95

I just had to laugh at the tags at the bottom of the article. It's tagged Women, Women's Health, Periods, Trans, Non-binary

So what is Women's Health , if a woman is anybody that wants to be, then these words have no meaning.

Someone's started another thread, not sure if this one has a link to Bindel writing in the telegraph? Paywalled, unfortunately.

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/caving-trans-activists-always-have-eliminated-women/

Posted this on the other smaller thread not realising this one was here.

Interestingly though this is one of those mass peak trans moments. On my FB I have a number of gaming friends and this sparked a conversation. I have responded and may well be deleted or told off but right now there has been far more interest shown in my point of view than in the other side ... so while I won't be buying Always again it was nice of them to do this so we can all talk about the crazy manipulation of corporations and products going on in the brave new gender world.

I also posted Julie Bindel's Telegraph article and I'm surprised (they asked for the text) because these are younger women and I got the impression they were dying to say something and my being open unleashed some pent up irritation and anger. So thanks Always because this is a pretty woke crowd you are peaking.

twitter.com/hashtag/MyAlwaysExperience?src=hashtag_click
Oh dear. Always are also selling lower quality pads in African countries - women report getting rashes and burns from them.

What a female-friendly company!!

I am not a personal pad-buyer, but I now know what brand to explicitly AVOID when buying sanitary products for foodbanks.
(Ditto other P&G stuff)

Censorship isn’t a medical treatment.

Nailed it.

I’ve actually had an epiphany today. I totally get it now.

Inclusion to me means access for all - so, for those in wheelchairs, visually impaired, maybe pushing a pram and slinging a baby, etc with me so far?

So to make, say a tube station or bus accessible- they’d need to spend a fortune on lifts, ramps, signage etc. Right?

Inclusive - if they just means paint a rainbow on it and say he/she/they then voila! Inclusivity in spades for the price of a few transfers and bullying emails to staff.

Do I win a cookie?

Oh dear Always. If only you’d kept your trap shut... Didn’t your PR team/dept follow Floragate?

From BBC Africa twitter: Kenyan women are using the Twitter hashtag #MyAlwaysExperience to express outrage over the Always brand of sanitary pads, which they say causes rashes, burns and discomfort. the accompanying phots is of the ‘nice’ towels sold elsewhere and the ones sold in Kenya that look like a nylon bolster cushion.

To be fair, there have been plenty of threads on MN over the years reporting that Always pads give women rashes and soreness. I can't imagine how uncomfortable the Kenya version is.

The photo used - looked like the inside of a large child’s nappy. These poor women must be walking like ducks.

We are a Stonewall approved school. But it only seems to be about promoting trans rights.

It would be. Stonewall are homophobic & misogynist & particularly dislike lesbians.

They tried to get the same-sex exemptions removed from the Equality Act, they’ve tried to get lesbians arrested on multiple occasions (me twice) for protesting about lesbian rights outside their conferences, and when asked whether women’s concerns about unisex toilets, rape shelters etc were reasonable, Ruth Hunt replied ‘Men are always going to rape women.’

I’m sure the school has way more disabled or special needs kids that trans kids. What are they doing for them?

Found you! I started the other thread this afternoon after opening my browser and finding the Huff Post article on the home page.

And there's me thinking that how you identify is irrelevant when it comes to flushing out your uterus on roughly four-weekly basis.
I don't know about other women, but my body still does its thing when I'm make-up free and in my masculine baggy jeans and trainers. How I identify doesn't play a role in the biology of my body.

I peak transed some time ago now. This news made me peak trans all over again.

If you are triggered by the mere sight of the Venus symbol and the fact only biological females are capable of bleeding out of their vaginas then your first call should be to psychological support, not P&G.

I'll be looking in to changing away from P&G products as much as I can.

I’ve just been gathering together my sanpro stock of Always Never More (craaaawww).

Nighttime (industrial strength) almost empty pack - no symbols
Normal wings stuff (brought in the US) - no symbols
Tampons - garish but not still symbols
Then bingo - another industrial strength nighttime ones - symbols galore (a newer pack, only one take out).

So they have done all this for a small % of their packaging anyway? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Funnily enough only the tampax has the word ‘woman’ on it (for more than 80 years Tampax has been trusted by women around the world - not any more mate).

My nice new ones are in a pale cream cover, smells of nothing - absolutely nothing - organic cotton, biodegradable, cardboard box, vegan society and ethical awards tagged, no chlorine, plastic or bleach and their website and twitter account says ‘woman’.

Why are we using other brands again? Habit?

I’m sure the school has way more disabled or special needs kids than trans kids. What are they doing for them?

Being inclusive doesn’t mean they include them. SN or disabled kids count even less than women in the world of inclusivity - unless they can be persuaded that the reason they don’t fit in is because they are actually trans.

It’s a bloody disgrace.