Always (sanitary towells) forced to remove Venus logo

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From The Fail unfortunately maybe someone can find another source but I cant see one atm.

Transgender lobby forces sanitary towel-maker Always to ditch Venus logo from its products

Sanitary towel pad maker now kowtows to transgender activists born female
They removed the feminine Venus symbol from its products after complaints
Butmany of Always’s female customers have responded angrily to the move
Sanitary towels with the new packaging will arrive in the stores by January 2020

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7592413/amp/Transgender-lobby-forces-ditch-female-logo-sanitary-towels.html

@ RJnomore1 because that’s nasty and it will be some poor sod that has to open them!

It looks like potentially it can’t be sent by mail. Which in this case is a shame.

@Birdsfoottrefoil I feel like they risk loosing users if they carry on. Women have been silenced enough in history.
It would appear, once again, we can not publicly discuss women's rights and safety. In fear of offending those taking them are offended.

Lordprof I did mean in marked packages sorry!

So is the story unconfirmed then? I don't want to get into 'Syrian refugees are banning Christmas decorations on Scottish Island' territory. But I thought the story had come from Ben Saunders (the person who allegedly complained) twitter anyway?

Sorry last bit didn't make sense. Typing in the middle of cooking. In fear of offending those who are taking them.

I don't really see the point in the logo removal. The actual menstruation is the bigger issue surely? Can transmen not use hormonal methods to stop their periods, therefore removing the need to look at the logo?

I've just attempted to look at Always' Facebook page and it's down. Maybe it collapsed under the weight of objections from women who don't 'identify' as men.

Why not use tena men pads then. I assume they provide a similar function.

I would boycott Always but because they’ve recently changed my favourEd pads to smell like a car air freshener from the 1980s I now no longer buy them.
I swapped to Natracare if anyone is interested.

So - a Trans woman stamps their feet and a multi million pound brand capitulates?

It wasn't a transwoman though, it was a transman.

Tequila my point exactly

I'm surprised mumsnet is shutting us down if you look on the Facebook page for always someone has posted it requesting a response always have not deleted it they haven't replied but it's still standing

I do get slightly confused by the trans/woman/man thing you never really hear much of trans men....until now

That's because the Facebook page for Always belongs to Always. They are not sponsoring themselves. MN is putting a sponsor (or potential sponsor) ahead of its users.

It doesn't matter if it came from a transman. They can take hormones to stop them. Or if they don't want to take hormones, they can have their tubes tied. Never heard of them, but presumably they're on hormones to grow facial hair etc anyway? They're choosing not too and choosing too hang on to it. They chose to hang on to that womanly monthly cycle, they'll just have to accept there's nothing masculine about a period.

I’m really baffled as to why MN are pulling these threads.

Loads of threads are started every day, on various subjects, where the facts are unconfirmed, but MN are pulling this particular subject off the boards

Why?

This is Procter & Gamble's registered office in the UK:

The Heights, Brooklands, Weybridge, Surrey, KT13 0XP

I suggest we all send back any pads we have bought, with a brief note along the lines of, "Won't be buying any more of your products, enjoy your corporate erasure, hugs from an Adult Human Female x"

I posted this elsewhere but I think the thread has been zapped

Surely they are just rebanding the packaging, as companies do from time to time, rather than as a direct result, they are then just getting the brownie points off the back of it.

I don't use always ST though do have their incontinence products, which just have flowers.

I might be banned for this. This post might be deleted.

But I am in hospital and am going through a prolongued and messy miscarriage and have gone through about 60 pads in 2 weeks. As the doctor was doing unmentionable things to me after other unmentionable things, all I could think of was “Bring it on mate. When you have a period, when you give birth, when you have a miscarriage, when you have to go through all the bloody, yes, bloody stuff that women have to go through, then bring it on. I challenge you. Because only then will I call you a woman.”

That nursery stuff is shocking.

Where does it stop? Looking at their UK website, "feminine products", "advice for women", "mums and daughters", "hey girls, shall we chat?", "helping girls across the world". All their pictures are of "girls and women".

Are they going to erase their whole set-up and start again? Perhaps just substitute "people" for any female identifying word. I am the most tolerant of all "peoples", my DD's are very, very, tolerant, but we are all pretty pissed off by this, I think because it is just such a small issue, that has been made into such a big one.

Obvs P&G are a massive corporation, but they rely on the spending choices of women who do the vast majority of the shit work for which their products are designed. Switch to eco pads, go back to using vinegar to clean surfaces (much more effective than most products) or use Cover/Method/Faith in Nature products.

Women need to stop cooperating with this shit.