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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sky: Hundreds of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex

83 replies

LangCleg · 05/10/2019 09:34

Excellent article about the growing numbers of detransitioners featuring Charlie Evans.

Tavi & Port in utter denial.

news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740

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LangCleg · 05/10/2019 09:34

There's a good TV package as well, I'll try and find the video.

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Yogobo · 05/10/2019 09:48

I just heard this as a news bulletin thing on LBC too. Am shocked but pleased it's getting out there.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 05/10/2019 10:01

"I'm in communication with 19 and 20-year-olds who have had full gender reassignment surgery who wish they hadn't, and their dysphoria hasn't been relieved, they don't feel better for it," she says.

"They don't know what their options are now."

sue the shit out of Mermaids and the Tavistock? I'd definitely contribute to that crowdfunder.

"I think some of the common characteristics are that they tend to be around their mid-20s, they're mostly female and mostly same-sex attracted, and often autistic as well."

Sad
Cuntysnark · 05/10/2019 10:05

I know many of us saw this coming but it’s just so desperately sad.

TinselAngel · 05/10/2019 10:08

@stellaomalley Could do a great documentary about this.

Popchyk · 05/10/2019 10:09

It's a well-written article.

twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1180279390485323776

Hundreds of comments under the article on Twitter.

DJLippy · 05/10/2019 10:13

Tickets for the launch event here
www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/detransition-the-elephant-in-the-room-tickets-73966390465

LangCleg · 05/10/2019 10:13

I've just had the point made to me that there are also boys (usually gay) caught in ROGD and detransition too. By a mum. So wanted to put that here.

I have Sky News on TV in the background and the video package has shown at least four times in the past two hours.

The anonymous young woman who has detransitioned talks about how her anorexia was just brushed over by therapists.

The main raison d'etre for Tavi & Port is the belief in a gendered soul, aka "gender identity". That's the main basis for transitioning minors. How can it stand up to thousands of desisting young women (and some young men)?

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CatalogueUniverse · 05/10/2019 10:14

Damn feminists trying to protect girls and young women from something that never happens, ummm. Wonder how this will be minimised.

SisterWendyBuckett · 05/10/2019 10:16

Sunlight at last.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 05/10/2019 10:17

The anonymous young woman who has detransitioned talks about how her anorexia was just brushed over by therapists

they're just experimenting on children aren't they?

MangoSplit · 05/10/2019 10:19

Good article.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 05/10/2019 10:20

generally sky's twitter posts get about 25 replies. this one has 650

what ever people who come here to gaslight us like to say, most people who know about this feel exactly the way as most people here

LangCleg · 05/10/2019 10:26

they're just experimenting on children aren't they?

Yes.

what ever people who come here to gaslight us like to say, most people who know about this feel exactly the way as most people here

Yes. The lesbians are the canaries in the coal mine. The feminists are the Cassandras of the narrative. But the dam is breaking.

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CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 05/10/2019 10:26

they're just experimenting on children aren't they?

Yep and some of the most vulnerable children in our society.

RubyViolet · 05/10/2019 10:26

I nearly choked on my Weetabix when l saw this ! MSM covering this story in a balanced way. Come on BBC catch up.

LangCleg · 05/10/2019 10:27

Also: notice the language in the headline, which is being repeated and emphasised by the presenters introducing the TV package: sex not gender.

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RoyalCorgi · 05/10/2019 10:35

Damn feminists trying to protect girls and young women from something that never happens, ummm. Wonder how this will be minimised.

Oh indeed. The amount of abuse we've received for warning that this would happen. And now that it has, who's going to say, "Hang on, those feminists were right all along?"

I'm not holding my breath.

FannyCann · 05/10/2019 10:40

Oh dear. The comments below the tweet are depressing. Total absence of critical thinking and lots of "they made their bed now sleep in it" type comments. 🤷‍♀️

MockersthefeMANist · 05/10/2019 10:45

Still the linguistic confusion.

You cannot 'return' to your original sex. You never left it. You cannot. It is impossible.

DoctorAllcome · 05/10/2019 10:50

Bit bummed they didn’t even mention that transitioned transgender people have a 19x higher risk of suicide than nontransitioned transgender people. They chose instead to keep the mantra of “regret is rarely seen” and “transition benefits many people”. If it were such a net benefit to the majority of transgender people, then the number killing themselves would go down not way waaaaay up!

Jellybeansincognito · 05/10/2019 10:50

^ indeed.
It’s extremely sad.

Beamur · 05/10/2019 10:53

This is very sad.
I guess by 'return' what they mean is to undo the damage that hormones and surgery have done to their bodies.

AnotherLass · 05/10/2019 11:01

I think that this is huge - I'm pretty sure that it will be detransitioners that will bring the whole gender identity thing down. Not immediately, but when enough of the ROGD kids have detransitioned that they can't be ignored, which I'm guessing will be about 5-10 years

As long as you believe in gendered souls, the rest follows, more or less. But detransitioners are the living proof that there are no gendered souls

OldCrone · 05/10/2019 11:10

I guess by 'return' what they mean is to undo the damage that hormones and surgery have done to their bodies.

Much of which can't be undone. Once body parts have been removed they're gone for good. And a woman who has taken testosterone will have a permanently deepened voice. If they took hormone blockers as adolescents the impact of that medication on their bone density and brain development will also stay with them for life.

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