I've just been called a TERF...

[OhCharlieYouPrick]

On Facebook.

Local Facebook page, a man posts a discussion about Prolife protesters outside abortion clinics. A picture of himself with a sign saying 'screw these guys', pointing to the Prolifers.

He then proceeds to lecture women thinking about counter protesting, saying sometimes it makes the situation worse (yet he posts a photo of himself clearly antagonising the prolifers at a previous protest )

I point out to people thinking about counter protesting, with a particular group who are mentioned, that the prochoice group hold certain views about gender that conflict with my own.
That they believe the word woman should not be used on placards as 'people of all genders use abortion services'
Obviously it's just women that use abortion services.

So a sign stating 'A woman's womb is no ones business but her own' would not be allowed. It would have to say 'A person's womb is no ones business but their own'

Anyway. I was blocked by the OP.

This below was the reason.

Funnily enough, before he blocked me I received around a DOZEN likes from Women agreeing with what I said. They also believe that the word woman is Not dirty and should be a use able word in relation to abortion services.

Yet this man think he knows better than them and me.

He blocked me again before I could reply.

Argh.

This person has nothing whatsoever to add. They are just derailing the thread. There is no point expounding your effort on arguing with them. They will never make an actual argument that you can pin down and challenge and in fact arrogantly refuse to do so. As pp on several threads have noted they have a rather childish way of looking at the world.

That's precisely the point, isn't it? You only want me to explain my reasoning so you can argue with it. So let's just both happily skip that part and you can go on posting your nonsense.

I mean, can you imagine a trans person safely using a bathroom without attacking someone? They're dangerous maniacs, right? I mean, they have a Y chromosome for heaven's sake! Can't be trusted.

Yes, let's skip that part, and then everyone can ignore your pointless nonsense.

Refusing to post your own argument while challenging and insulting others is not posting in good faith.

We all know it's because you don't have a leg to stand on.

Please do so. I'm eager to read your next installment. I've run out of my Agatha Christies.

Why are you bothering? You have nothing to say.

I'm just a bit confused about what the point of going "just so you know, I'm not going to discuss this with you" over and over again is. At a certain point that actually is a discussion, just a really boring and pointless one.

Indeed. So let's get back to the trans bashing shall we? Who wants to start?

I mean, can you imagine a trans person safely using a bathroom without attacking someone?
Yes
They're dangerous maniacs, right?

No.

And if you'd bothered to ever actually read what women on FWR write, you'd know that. So, these pointless posts are evidently written from mere prejudice, based on invalid assumptions about what the issues are.

Reading is fundamental!

(Puts on teacher hat)

Yes - it is much easier to set up straw man arguments and then ‘show’ how silly these are than to actually engage with the facts.

I'm glad to hear you think trans people should be able to use their bathroom of choice. Very refreshing news!

No, Karkasaurus, we are happy that we all see the label 'Terf' for the impotent, useless, meaningless toddler term that it is. We are smug that we see it for what it is.

As for dashing in and out to hurl "shit" and "pathetic" at us, well....we ARE on a Feminism and Women's Rights board so we are allowed to discuss issues that affect Women.

Do you want to engage in the dialogue or just lamely throw insults around?

Think we have the answer now.

Random but not entirely unrelated and I'm sure we're all eager to talk about anything other than what some people won't talk about, I ran across the most excellent illustration of the epic sense of humor failure infecting some of the self-consciously Woke.

www.buzzfeed.com/spenceralthouse/problematic-friends-tv-show-moments

Like, they realize the point of the episode where dad is having a fit about his son playing with a Barbie is that dad is being a dumbass, right? Not sure how much more obvious it could have been made short of having an arrow with IDIOT on it pointing at his head the whole time.

If there's any posts on this thread which you think are 'trans bashing', then you should report them - anyone who's been on MN for a decade should know how to do that.

If you can't identify any posts which are actually doing that, then maybe you should retract the post which implies they exist?

I mean, they have a Y chromosome for heaven's sake! Can't be trusted.

Well, fact is that 98% of sex crimes are committed by males.

So what is it that turns a man, who is statistically more of a danger to women than other women, into a safe 'woman'?

I've been asking years, what is it?

Is it just that you have empathy but no actual reasoning for this? It's ok if you do, many people feel that way.

But I'd love to know what it is about the words 'I am a woman' than makes a man into a safer bet?

Yes, the characters in Friends were frequently arseholes. That was part of the humour, they were flawed, human, three dimensional individuals. Most sitcom characters are or there wouldn't be much comedy.

I'm glad to hear you think trans people should be able to use their bathroom of choice.

Which obviously wasn't what I said. Because unlike you, I have some understanding of the need some women have for single sex spaces.
Feminism is about centring women's needs, not giving up women's rights when they're at odds with what other groups want.

What's odd is that one person writing about how awful they were was talking about how much she loved Seinfeld, and the characters in that were all arseholes too.

I guess people thought of Seinfeld as more "intelligent". Lots of people used to sneer at Friends.

I had boyfriends in the 90s who refused to watch it, and I asked them if they had ever seen it, and they hadn't.

It's the fact that they're assuming that if something is a plotline then the show is endorsing it that has me scratching my head. Have these people just never watched TV before, or..?

I heard Spitting Image is coming back. Imagine how people who find something as bland as Friends problematic are going to cope with that.

As long as it only attacks Trump and the Tories they'll be fine.

Oh no, so trans people can't come into the bathroom. But you're sure they're lovely people, right?

Non sequitur.