Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans 7 year old legally changes name on BC and passport.

134 replies

PennysPocket · 22/09/2019 08:46

I won't link the story as the child is named and there are photographs but it's easy enough to find.

This child is 7 yo ffs.
They preferred girls clothes and girls toys since the age of 3 so therefore they must be a girl.
The mum is very excited about introducing puberty blockers in a few years Hmm

The same paper is running a story highlighting the outrage that a 16 yo was offered lip fillers at several Harley Street clinics cos ya know its ILLEGAL for under 18s to have cosmetic surgery or a tattoo but puberty blockers are totally fine...

Why are we allowing this shit?
Why is it OK for 7 yo to make life changing choices but a 16 yo can't get lip fillers?

OP posts:
Milanimilani · 22/09/2019 08:48

How easy will it be to change back? I changed my name at xi form once and it was a right bugger changing it back.

stillathing · 22/09/2019 09:16

And here we go with yet another early transition story that is probably supposed to be some kind of a "gotcha".

Instead it follows the same old ultra regressive formula of small child born into a world where boys wear football kits and girls wear Disney Princess outfits. Child, a boy, given these two oh so binary choices, chooses princess.

Mother, with the help of teacher, Mermaids and YouTube starts the transition process. Everyone happy because the world is still full of boys in football kits and girls in Disney Princess dresses. The boy is rebaptised as a girl.

In a few years, well before their brain is allowed to fully mature (which is by 24 years) child will be allowed to chooses for themselves whether to start on a course of treatment that may well permanently prevent that brain maturity; cause infertility; prevent ability to orgasm; cause bone density problems and leave a potentially healthy human a life long patient on the NHS.

Please, do tell me again how gender critical feminists are aligned with religious conservatives?

nauticant · 22/09/2019 09:22

Twitter is unconvinced:

twitter.com/TheSundayMirror/status/1175501854140194822

Check out the summary below the headline:

EXCLUSIVE: Luna was asking to become a girl from a very young age and mum Jeneen made it happen with the help of Mermaids

DickKerrLadies · 22/09/2019 09:28

From Twitter: Is this mother right in the head...absolutely the most bizarre and disturbing thing I’ve seen today. And that includes the WatfordFC defense...!!!

I present to you the Great British Public and one of many, many examples of 'not buying this shit'

If they think we're sarcastic on FWR and that's really awful of us, the real world outside their blocklist-protected bubble is going to be a massive shock.

alwayscauseastir · 22/09/2019 09:35

This isn't anything new. Only a few years ago my child came home from school and announced that in assembly they informed everyone that a child formally known as xxx (boy) is now a girl and should be called xxx. All of the toilets were changed to unisex. Being a catholic school it caused anger amongst some, more so of the way it was handed and it did make the national news. It didn't bother me or my children, were very open minded, but I could see why it affected some. This is only news because the parents have chosen to go public.

PositiveVibez · 22/09/2019 09:36

This has been completely lead by the mother (obviously - she's been transitioning the child since they were 3 ffs!!) Even down to the choice of name.

Infuriating. Do you think that poor kid will have the chance to change their mind as they grow older because I certainly don't.

The mother has decided that she wants a daughter and that poor child has to fit her agenda.

She needs help. As will the child when they grow up wondering why the fuck their mum allowed and wholeheartedly encouraged and enforced this to happen to them.

Nonnymum · 22/09/2019 09:37

I think it's very sad. What I'm not sure about is why this is happening more now?
Im wondering if boys and girls are pressurised from a young age to conform to some image of what a boy or girl is and if they don't fit they have to change gender. I don't understand why we can't just let children be children. At 7 he is still growing and developing his character.
I do wonder what we as a society are doing to our children.

Thingybob · 22/09/2019 09:47

We're so proud of Jeneen and Luna. Read their full story in tomorrow's @TheSundayMirror. We're thankful to have been there for them and hopefully now, because of their courage, we'll be there for many more

twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1175513727824781312

Nonnymum · 22/09/2019 09:47

Sorry I've just realised I have called the child he . I should have said any child is still developing and growing at that age.

JoyceJeffries · 22/09/2019 09:49

This says much more about the child’s mother than the child itself.

donquixotedelamancha · 22/09/2019 09:58

The sad thing is that this child now will have gender dysphoria when they hit puberty. How could they not feel distress that their body doesn't match their self image?

Imagine if this boy was told that liking dress up and dolls is fine for boys. If he wasn't made to feel odd for disliking football.

PennysPocket · 22/09/2019 10:06

The sad thing is that this child now will have gender dysphoria when they hit puberty

This is my feeling.
It's all cute now and the child his happy fir the attention and feels free to play and dress as they like. What happens if they start to feel differently aged 14? Will this child feel able to express a different gender? Will they feel able to say no to puberty blockers?
Or will they feel so trapped by the adults around them and have "lived as a girl" for so long they don't think there is a way back?

This is why transing children is abusive. Adults put them in a situation the children have no control over.

OP posts:
CadburysTastesVileNow · 22/09/2019 10:16

‘Better a happy daughter than a dead son’ - the usual catchphrase (in the Mail version)

And the decision to move onto puberty blockers will be ‘Luna’s alone’. At what, age 16? Will Luna be allowed to get married, or drop out of school, or tattoo her eyeballs or stay out overnight aged 16, on their own say-so?

stillathing · 22/09/2019 10:19

Imagine if this boy was told that liking dress up and dolls is fine for boys. If he wasn't made to feel odd for disliking football.

Yet we live in a world where privileged, successful, famous males declare that their use of eyeliner and choice of clothing makes them literally female some of the time. They are celebrated for doing so. These grown ups aren't contemplating drugs and surgery to remove their sexual function though.

littlbrowndog · 22/09/2019 10:21

What 3 years old kid even knows or talks about this stuff

It’s just nonsense. And very damaging nonsense fi4 that kid

I do think it’s child abuse

littlbrowndog · 22/09/2019 10:22

And why is the mum putting her kid in the paper. Who does that

JoyceJeffries · 22/09/2019 10:23

Agreed. Child abuse. But the mums getting lots of attention so that’s the main thing.

WeaselsRising · 22/09/2019 10:23

This is frightening. You can see from the photos that the mother has a very fixed idea of what makes a girl and what makes a boy. He doesn't fit with her view of what a boy is, so therefore he is a girl.

My DS2 was a gentle little boy who loved all things pink and shiny. He had a really good eye for clothes and would come shopping with me and pick out nice fabrics. At 5 he would happily let his big sister dress him up in sparkly clothes and a feather boa.

Now 28, he is still interested in clothes and likes to dress well. While the rest of the family slob about in supermarket clothes he will only buy smart designer brands. He always looks polished. He is happily a man, despite not liking sport.

Hate to think that a 5 year old like he was could be set off on the path to "changing sex".

eveholt · 22/09/2019 10:25

I've had a 3yo, if they think gender roles are rigid enough to need to change sex at that age then you have seriously fixed up their parenting. They are toddlers. My ds likes dresses - so what?

FamilyOfAliens · 22/09/2019 10:25

You had me at “Trans 7 year old”.

Datun · 22/09/2019 10:25

And the decision to move onto puberty blockers will be ‘Luna’s alone’. At what, age 16?

As far as I'm aware development blockers (puberty blockers) are administered at Tanner Stage 2, which is between 9 and 11 years old.

By 16 puberty has already happened.

LemonAddict · 22/09/2019 10:26

I can't believe that Social Services don't step in, when someone starts transitioning their 3 year old... or maybe they do and the child is on some child protection register somewhere, but the mum doesn't mention that, unsurprisingly.

eveholt · 22/09/2019 10:26

*fixed up should be fucked up!

MyRaGaiaStarFishPieA · 22/09/2019 10:26

As the old saying goes - show me a vegan cat and il show you a owner making a lifestyle choice in their own interest.

donquixotedelamancha · 22/09/2019 10:29

And why is the mum putting her kid in the paper. Who does that

It's almost as if the choice to dress her son up, put makeup on him, tell him he's a girl then publish photos in a national newspaper, was not completely about his needs.

Swipe left for the next trending thread