Trans 7 year old legally changes name on BC and passport.

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I won't link the story as the child is named and there are photographs but it's easy enough to find.

This child is 7 yo ffs.
They preferred girls clothes and girls toys since the age of 3 so therefore they must be a girl.
The mum is very excited about introducing puberty blockers in a few years

The same paper is running a story highlighting the outrage that a 16 yo was offered lip fillers at several Harley Street clinics cos ya know its ILLEGAL for under 18s to have cosmetic surgery or a tattoo but puberty blockers are totally fine...

Why are we allowing this shit?
Why is it OK for 7 yo to make life changing choices but a 16 yo can't get lip fillers?

DD at 7 was into playing with boys toys, had her hair cut very short and wore jeans and t shirts as they were the most practical.

Ds had waist length hair and looked prettier than most girls.

Being trans anything never came into it.

Utterley stupid woman.

Better a happy daughter than a dead son

How does anyone know that this "daughter" won't end up dead because of the pills this mother wants to shove down her son's throat.

No one knows the long term side effects of these pills

Is Luna wearing makeup in that pic?

I agree that 7 year olds have no idea about birth certificates.

People like Sam Smith and Eddie Izzard need to have a long hard look at themselves. It's because of insidious shit people like them are pedalling that this child will almost inevitably be condemned to a life of medication, infertility, no proper sex drive and painful surgery.

I just can't believe how this is happening, how this is progress?

This is child abuse.

No 3 year old really knows their own mind, and they certainly can't think through the long term consequences of their actions.

We have a legal adult age of 18 for a reason.

You can't vote, marry or have sex at 15, but crack on and destroy your future fertility and mutilate your body!

This world has gone crazy! Tbh, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have had any children.

This part stands out for me. She reaches out for support and is told basically told to play nicely and not be offensive! This should be about her concerns not competitive misery.

But she stresses: “I explained how I felt to friends not in the trans community. They told me I should be grateful to have a child.

“It’s a complex emotion as a parent of a trans child. Last thing I wanted was to cause offence to any parent who has lost a child because of an accident or illness.”

Who directed the child to do the «hands on knees, head on one side» pose I wonder.

And if its true that the teacher 'agreed that something was up' because that little boy always chose to dress up in dresses at school, then fucking shame on them as well.

Any EY teacher worth their salt knows that little boys do want to dress up in dresses and play with dolls at school and that it is completely normal.

Mermaids loves this sort of story being public because those that work there seek validation for the irreversible actions they undertook on their own children.

Sorry to slightly derail, but I just looked into the Lily Madigan case upthread. I hadn't heard of it.

Is there any reason why on earth the school didn't just let the child wear the "female" uniform? Unisex dress codes would make everything much easier. Schools (most of them, anyway) allowed girls to wear trousers years ago, just let boys wear skirts if they want. Gendered dress codes are clearly contributing to the problem.

Stupid, stupid abusive woman. And Mermaids need some thorough scrutiny and now.

By coincidence today's Sunday Times contained this part of a letter from Aldous Huxley to George Orwell commenting on Nineteen Eighty-Four:

Within the next generation I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.

QuimReaper totally agree. These things happen because boys and girls are treated differently for no good reason. Let them wear what they like and be called what they like. There is no reason to segregate boys and girls for lots of the things they currently are segregated for. And people wonder why kids grow up preferring to be the opposite sex. They always used to but now there’s the added headfuck of them being told that they actually CAN change sex whereas before they always knew it was impossible.

Ffs

Once again the mums hailed a hero for "listening" to their child.

Mermaids get another positive intervention story.

But then it's over to the rest if us.
Over to us to go along with it. Over to us to give up our spaces to allow this to continue all the way to adult hood.

And over to us to welcome them back and provide the help should this all go wrong, the kid changes their mind and the trans community turn their back on them leaving them with no one.

How is any of this a good outcome.

And as for the changes on the birth certificates and passport, well I hope to God if anything ever happens and they do missing/run away validation doesnt take presidence over having the world look for the correct child.

My 3 year old decided he wanted to marry a tortoise! 3 year olds are just learning about the world.

What is so sad, is that this trans stuff is reinforcing male/female stereotypes from the 1970s. Having fought for some sense of equality then and since, it breaks my heart to see it all unraveling. If boys want to dress like 'girls' or play with so-called 'girl's toys etc. - let them. I wanted to play with 'boys' toys growing up. Did that mean I was really a trans-man? Of course not!

In 2016 Jeneen took Luna to Liverpool Pride, where Mermaids had a stall. They met a family with a trans child a year older than Luna.

Pride, Mermaids, Liverpool, Leeds. Someone needs to demolish the M62.

My 5 year old wanted to be a dog for about over a year, I did not go along with it, and although I didn't stop them playing at being a dog I did tell them it was impossible.
They're now in their late teens and can't believe they wanted something so ridiculous.

@quimreaper @pota2

i don't know... i used to think 'boy can wear skirts, boy and girls are equal... but at this point i really don't know.

before transgender culture there was gender neutral education period.
parents let their child wear dress or what you want, let sons doing makeup, long hair...

then transgender movement arrives, magically that gender neutral kids became transkids.

it feels like some trap.

and 'girls and boys are equal' this became boys in girls sports and toilet.

maybe all things like that just make children confused.

I don’t think this is the positive story mermaids think it is. I guarantee the vast majority of ppl reading it will find it baffling and ridiculous and see straight away that it is in fact ALL about the mother

That poor child

Jaxhog it’s worse than the 1970s. I was a little kid then. I had short hair & wore my brothers hand me downs, people thought I was a boy. I played football climbed trees, wrestled my brothers. My brother played with the girls & dolls.

Nobody commented or batted an eyelid.

If We were kids now we’d both be trans

I have posted this twice on the wrong threads this morning before getting this here, so here goes...

From the article:

Luna had only been at school a few weeks when Jeneen asked to speak to her teacher.

She explains: “It was World Book Day. I explained Luna wanted to go as Alice in Wonderland and I asked if she thought there might be more to this. The teacher agreed, saying she noticed Luna always being the mum or sister when kids played dressing-up.

So this child had been at school for a few weeks and the teacher started agreeing with the mum that there might be 'more to it' because this child always wanted to dress as the mum or sister. A child who came from a family home where there was no male in the house (it states that Jeneen is a single mum). Kids act out what they know.

I have a child in my class at the moment who loves role play and dressing up, he comes in every day and is straight over there. Occasionally he puts on a belt and a toy mobile phone in his pocket and he is 'daddy' but far more often he is in a dress at the toy cooker and giving the doll a bottle.

It's totally irrelevant!

skql totally disagree. The answer cannot be to just carry on stupid and harmful stereotypes. Most people might be fine with them but they do cause distress, often to gay children and adults. WHY do girls wear skirts but boys must wear trousers? WHY can girls have long hair at school but boys can’t? WHY have we grouped names into male and female? Forcing people to conform is not the answer and I am pretty sure that it’s why we’re seeing this explosion of unhappiness now.

Kids 50 years ago were reading the Famous Five where a character had short hair, a boys name and liked to be called Master. Nobody suggested that this turned kids trans. Because at the time it was not an option for kids and nobody suggested that it was.

Also, we have accepted ‘tomboys’ forever but not boys liking typically female things. Why shouldn’t a boy be allowed to wear a skirt if he likes? How can you claim to be GC yet think that it’s easier if we just reinforce stereotypes and that ‘boys and girls are equal’ narratives cause problems? What am I reading?

Another 70s child here. Toy shops are much more pink/blue now than there were

I don't often comment on these threads as it's all so.... Sigh. However I do wonder if anything has been done research wise to explore the mental health of the parents of these children? Is this angle part of the debate?

I have a son who spent from 2-7 wearing princess dresses, plying with girls, being the mum or sister in mums and dads, refusing to join in with football and putting on his sister’s clothes. He still has no interest on anything “boyish” and loves ballet and crafts.

He is a BOY a boy who doesn’t conform to stereotype, but a boy and there’s absolutely no way I’m prepared to consider he is anything different. It would have been so easy to suggest he was trans but it’s not a route we were ever going to consider

The teacher agreed, saying she noticed Luna always being the mum or sister when kids played dressing-up.

How does a child dress up as a mum or a sister? Jeans and jumper maybe? Or something else? And how does that differ from a dad or brother?