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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans 7 year old legally changes name on BC and passport.

134 replies

PennysPocket · 22/09/2019 08:46

I won't link the story as the child is named and there are photographs but it's easy enough to find.

This child is 7 yo ffs.
They preferred girls clothes and girls toys since the age of 3 so therefore they must be a girl.
The mum is very excited about introducing puberty blockers in a few years Hmm

The same paper is running a story highlighting the outrage that a 16 yo was offered lip fillers at several Harley Street clinics cos ya know its ILLEGAL for under 18s to have cosmetic surgery or a tattoo but puberty blockers are totally fine...

Why are we allowing this shit?
Why is it OK for 7 yo to make life changing choices but a 16 yo can't get lip fillers?

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 17:56

I can honestly say that I have never played football or rugby in my life. I tried cricket once and hated it!

SleepingStandingUp · 22/09/2019 18:04

4 yo DS has just told me he prefers wearing dresses to trousers. It worrying to think indifferent famy what that conversation would "mean"

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 18:21

And I prefer trousers to skirts - always have. Much easier to climb trees and over fences in trousers.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 22/09/2019 19:35

My 5 year old wanted to be a dog

Was going to paste similar. I had wannabe dogs, a worm and a hippo. A bland 'that's nice" was all the reaction I could muster and I'm happy to report that my now adult children do not reside in a zoo.

I also had a female friend at school who didn't conform to her gender stereotypes. She kept her hair short, wore uniform trousers and refused to play in the netball team because she wouldn't wear a skirt. With hindsight and adult understanding, I now believe that probably had some level of dysphoria. She loathed her large boobs that she developed at a young age and enjoyed "boys" outdoor activities as well as science and computing.

I think she had a tough time, but fortunately no one filtered her towards any kind of transitioning ideology. In reality by 18 she had begun to be more relaxed about femininity and began wearing skirts at Uni. She also martyred young and had 2 children in her 20's.

Whenever I read of anyone experiencing similar feelings I think of my friend. How she was allowed time and space to become the person she was. It's so heartbreaking that others are directed down a different path just so that others can prove how marvellous they are.

Sittinonthefloor · 22/09/2019 20:06

Alice - sorry to hear about the martyrdom of your classmate 🙁

TheBullshitGoesOn · 22/09/2019 20:46

There is no chance that child will be able to get off the trans juggernaut even if they want to.

When I was 9 or 10 I really liked hedgehogs. I spent my pocket money on hedgehog ornaments and toys. Friends and family started giving me hedgehog themed presents.

Forty years later I still get the occasional hedgehog present or card from them. I've not had the courage tell them that I've been indifferent to hedgehogs since the age of about 13.

If I can't tell family I'm not fussed about hedgehogs, what hope for a child to tell their parents that they don't feel trans any more after the parent has invested so much effort to make it happen? Even if the kid does change their mind, will they feel able to say anything?

OldCrone · 22/09/2019 20:57

Even if the kid does change their mind, will they feel able to say anything?

The problems of social transition have been studied, and this is a concern.

"Given our findings that some girls, who were almost (but not even entirely) living as boys in their childhood years, experienced great trouble when they wanted to return to the female gender role, we believe that parents and caregivers should fully realize the unpredictability of their child’s psychosexual outcome. They may help the child to handle their gender variance in a supportive way, but without taking social steps long before puberty, which are hard to reverse."

Desisting and persisting gender dysphoria after childhood: A qualitative follow-up study

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 22/09/2019 21:00

Sittinonthefloor ha ha. I must proof read x 1000!

Fortunately she swapped martyrdom for matrimony Grin

YobaOljazUwaque · 22/09/2019 21:46

@Ali1cedowntherabbithole same thing, for some, isn't it?

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