Trans 7 year old legally changes name on BC and passport.

[PennysPocket]

I won't link the story as the child is named and there are photographs but it's easy enough to find.

This child is 7 yo ffs.
They preferred girls clothes and girls toys since the age of 3 so therefore they must be a girl.
The mum is very excited about introducing puberty blockers in a few years

The same paper is running a story highlighting the outrage that a 16 yo was offered lip fillers at several Harley Street clinics cos ya know its ILLEGAL for under 18s to have cosmetic surgery or a tattoo but puberty blockers are totally fine...

Why are we allowing this shit?
Why is it OK for 7 yo to make life changing choices but a 16 yo can't get lip fillers?

3 year olds don’t even kno2 what they want for their tea

And if your 7 year said yeah I want to take drugs drive a car get a tattoo what would a parent say ?

"Only a few years ago my child came home from school and announced that in assembly they informed everyone that a child formally known as xxx (boy) is now a girl and should be called xxx. All of the toilets were changed to unisex. Being a catholic school it caused anger amongst some,"

I assume from certain information, that this is the Lily Madigan/St Simon Stock school in Maidstone saga, which to this day is playing out as a car crash in plain view.
I wish the school had not been forced to back down on that issue as they went against the 2010 Equality Act, which lists "sex" as a "protected characteristic".

www.ageuk.org.uk/globalassets/age-uk/documents/factsheets/fs79_equality_discrimination_and_the_public_sector_equality_duty_fcs.pdf

7 year olds don’t even know about their birth certificates.

Who is pushing this and why ?

It's almost as if the choice to dress her son up, put makeup on him, tell him he's a girl then publish photos in a national newspaper, was not completely about his needs.

Even if it was the child's decision to pose in a national newspaper rather than the mother's (any mention of the father?), as a parent I still wouldn't allow it.

Or will they feel so trapped by the adults around them and have "lived as a girl" for so long they don't think there is a way back?

This, this, this! People always say that "social transition" is totally reversible, no harm can be done etc, but the pressure that this places on a child....

I agree, child abuse and unsurprisingly facilitated by Mermaids

Always the mantra that if you don’t let the child transition, they will kill themselves. There are of course a few rare cases, usually due to having other MH issues, where that happens, but to suggest it happens in most or all cases is total nonsense.

Glaringly obvious that this is fuelled by the heavily gendered way that people are raising their kids. Mum clearly thought that boys must be into football and presumably kid grows up thinking that the only way one can have pretty pink dresses is to actually be a girl.

The problem is that this kid is now being told that he IS a girl. So his sense of self is going to be as female which is of little importance until puberty. Then this child’s body is likely to cause him acute distress because he has spent 7 years of his life having it affirmed that he really is a girl, his classmates will know him as a girl and his mindset is that he is female. I am guessing that the ‘choice’ to go on hormone blockers will be an easy one and after that, cross sex hormones.

A kid I knew growing up wore dresses and played with dolls. People frequently thought he was a girl and he didn’t correct them. He is now a gay man and absolutely no hint that he thinks he isn’t male. Yet I am convinced that he would have fallen into the trans kids category if he was born 20 years later than he was.

If the mum is reading this, I have sympathy for her but the stuff Mermaids are telling you about suicide is total rubbish. There is no evidence for it and they are scaremongering. Your kid is likely to have a life of medication and surgery and struggles. You will probably come to bitterly regret how you handled it.

The one where the mum is a nurse and mermaids facilitated this?

I wonder what TRAs view is?
Is this 7 yo brave and stunning?
Do they see transing children as validation for their own adult choices?

I am not sure anyone with an ounce of decency and genuine care for children's wellbeing can think this is safe and progressive.
Jazz is a public example. We have a teenager who has lived a trans life for so long they have no choice in how they live as an adult.
Puberty blockers have if I read correctly left Jazz with under developed genitals making any sort of SRS difficult and will be unlikely to result in the outcome Jazz was promised by the adults around them.

I can't believe that Social Services don't step in

I can, firstly because regulatory capture applies to social services as much as anywhere and secondly because I am old enough to remember the whole 'recovered memory/satanic ritual child abuse nonsense and social services involvement in it.

As things stand I'm sorry to say social services are probably more likely to step in if parents refuse to go along with life long medicalisation of perfectly healthy children who don't conform to sexist stereotypes than in cases where this is being pushed by attention seeking parents/parents with MBP.

But 7 year olds don’t even know about newspapers I don’t think let alone want to be in one

I can’t imagine any 7 year olds saying to their mum. I want to be in the paper

So who is pushing this and why ?

Mum looking for a tv show perhaps?

Pennys of course they do. They fucking love this stuff. Apparently it’s fine to be on hormones for the rest of your life and totally not a big deal. There are no problems whatsoever. (Obv if you are a female and you are overweight or have high BP, the doctor might refuse to prescribe you low dose hormonal contraception due to the risks, but that clearly has nothing to do with it and saying that it does is literal violence).

The way that adults jump on this and say it’s brilliant is chilling. I will seriously never forget who promoted this and I hope to god they will be held to account pretty soon.

littlbrowndog I suspect it was Mermaids who suggested this wonderful media opportunity to the mum. No doubt they get contacted a lot to supply a happy story of transition. Usually with the kid plastered in makeup like that Butterfly TV show just to hammer home how really feminine they are.

These are untested drugs on kids. Untested

But they don’t tend to look feminine. Lots of pink and a simpering coy smile doesn’t look like any girl I know.

LordProf I don’t want to comment on the kid’s looks. But pre puberty boys and girls look quite similar and a boy with a traditionally female hairstyle and clothes would no doubt pass for a girl quite a lot. Obvs changes as soon as puberty hits which is why that will be when this kid will suffer real distress. He has been told that he IS a girl by Mermaids and his mum. But soon his body will betray him and it’s pretty much guaranteed that he will go for blockers, then hormones. Social transition isn’t harmless. What would be harmless would be to let him wear what he wants, grow his hair how he wants but never entertain that he actually is a girl. The problem is that sex is not neutral. We bring kids up telling them that ‘being a boy means X’ even when we think we don’t. It’s actually unsurprising that kids feel distress. However, telling them that they can change sex (rather than changing what it means to be male or female) is the complete wrong response.

The next change won’t be for a few years when Luna starts puberty and she can choose for herself if she wants hormone blockers and medication, and whatever else she chooses. But it will be her decision, and hers only.

Does she think we should let all children on the verge of puberty make (potentially irreversible) decisions that will massively impact the rest of their life all on their own? Like whether they want to take drugs, drink alcohol, drive a car, have sex with an adult...?

Is there a reason we don’t let them do that, perhaps?

Fuck the daily Mirror for promoting this abusive shit.

Clearly the mum has been groomed by Mermaids. Public support has turned so Mermaids need another feel-good story so let's persuade one of our "special trans mums" to put her child in the paper. For all the talk of privacy, Mermaids sure as hell is happy to put young children out in the public eye.

And that piece is not actually designed to celebrate transgender, but to demonstrate the clear problems with it.

But Mermaids is, as always, too dimwitted to realise it.

And I've said this before on these stories.

Where are the fathers of these children? They are never in the papers talking about how inspiring it all is. The absent father is very common in these stories and nobody seems to be making any connection.

The trans lobby is very clearly and deliberately grooming single mums, who themselves come across as quite vulnerable.

”The one where the mum is a nurse”

Now trained as a therapist...

The child won’t be making the decision on their own. Being brought up told that ‘you are a girl’ by the people you love and trust won’t give you much room to question - we don’t really start not believing our parents until after puberty surely?

True, of course, Fekko - and as many survivors of parental abuse know, it can take much longer, decades even, before people really begin to question the narrative their parents spun them.

Which is why the idea of a child that age making their own choice about something this huge is absurd and wrong.

This is not in the childs best interest....the Mother is delusional and the whole story is just too sad for words. mermaids have a lot to answer for-SG did what she felt was right for her child but she should not be advising other families-and yes, where is the Father?

I can not believe kids are being allowed to make such life changing, irreversible decisions. Christ, my 7yo would like to exist in Nutella and Haribo but that’s not gonna happen. He’s the same child who had a doll as a toddler and used to change its nappies. Doesn’t mean he wanted to be a girl, and not did I suggest it. We did have comments from certain family members about “girls toys”, which I told DS was down to them being silly - toys are toys.

I wonder why for certain parents childhood has to be so stereotyped. I thought we had made progress with the whole girls/boys toys and clothes thing, but seemingly not. As op have said, how come puberty blockers are fine to give to kids, but tattoos not? They come with major health risks, and the number of serious incidents that have arisen from their use is appalling (I read it in another MN thread , something like 41,000) - how can they continue to give them to children?

How the fuck can they let children decide on a future of infertility etc when they don't even let grown women decide if they want to be sterilised? What the actual fuck is going on here?

No kid is trans at that age. No kid understands the implications of what they are going through.

I wanted to be a boy for most of my childhood and teenage years. Thank fuck this shit wasn't around then. I wouldn't have got married to a man and had my kids. I'd be an infertile mess of a woman. Because you can't change sex. Stop lying to these kids! Stop enforcing rigid gender stereotypes on them.

True, of course, Fekko - and as many survivors of parental abuse know, it can take much longer, decades even, before people really begin to question the narrative their parents spun them.

Not even abusive parents. I didn't have an abusive childhood at all, I had a totally idyllic childhood, but now that I am an adult, even I raise an eyebrow at some of my parents decisions.

I actually quite distinctively remember the realisation that my parents didn't know everything and weren't always right. I wasn't a rebellious teenager or anything so it was quite late for me, but I do remember it.

Luckily they hadn't told me any huge lies about my life and who I was, so it wasn't too traumatic.