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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans 7 year old legally changes name on BC and passport.

134 replies

PennysPocket · 22/09/2019 08:46

I won't link the story as the child is named and there are photographs but it's easy enough to find.

This child is 7 yo ffs.
They preferred girls clothes and girls toys since the age of 3 so therefore they must be a girl.
The mum is very excited about introducing puberty blockers in a few years Hmm

The same paper is running a story highlighting the outrage that a 16 yo was offered lip fillers at several Harley Street clinics cos ya know its ILLEGAL for under 18s to have cosmetic surgery or a tattoo but puberty blockers are totally fine...

Why are we allowing this shit?
Why is it OK for 7 yo to make life changing choices but a 16 yo can't get lip fillers?

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Doyoumind · 22/09/2019 15:35

I hope that mother has explained to her child they will never be able to have biological children of their own. Sure, a 7 year old fully understands the implications of going down this route.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 15:38

The child may well believe that they can indeed carry and give birth to a baby. Such is the ‘information’ that is trotted out.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 15:42

I don’t think that’s going to make much difference to young kids. Few young kids think very much about having children as an adult, especially boys. Same with teens.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 15:43

But yeah they have probably been told that womb transplants are just round the corner. Maybe they will become a reality around the same time as brain transplants and then the parents can get in on the action too.

nettie434 · 22/09/2019 15:45

As far as I'm aware development blockers (puberty blockers) are administered at Tanner Stage 2, which is between 9 and 11 years old.

Yes, I seem to remember DumondeBetty explaining this on another thread. 9-11 is such a young age. The analogy is not really like getting married with parents' consent, having a tattoo etc. It's more like being able to walk to school on their own or being left alone in the house for half an hour or so.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 15:45

I believe our favourite woman’s officer said that they could have a baby.

Now maybe they meant ‘have a baby ... delivered by Deliveroo’ but after reading some of the bayshittery posted online I’m not too sure they didn’t.

PickledGulag · 22/09/2019 15:46

Sell out parents need not bother with the ire of having to develop a talent in their children to make them stage worthy and able to pay the mortgage these days, just trans them and hey presto a SPECIAL money maker in the family, chaching!

cwg1 · 22/09/2019 15:47

The football thing again!!! (though I must confess I only recently worked this out, though something had been niggling me.)

UK boy not into footy => 'Ooh, could be trans.'

US (where soccer is very much seen as 'girls' game) boy into soccer => ' Ooh, could be trans'. See I Am Jazz et al.

If that doesn't prove that this doesn't owe a huge amount to stereotypes, I really am a gnu.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 15:48

How confusing - in US a relative loved footie as a schoolgirl and played very well in school college. Now married to another footie mad woman.

What is the world coming to?

Doyoumind · 22/09/2019 15:49

That's kind of the point Pota2. By the time these children are really thinking about whether they would like children of their own they will have gone down the puberty blocker and hormone route and will be stuck in their gender and unable to have biological children. Children just don't have any comprehension of what it all means.

Jocasta2018 · 22/09/2019 16:03

Shouldn't this behaviour by the mother be diagnosed as Munchausen's Syndrome By Proxy????
Rather than the child being diagnosed as trans?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 16:05

You’d think that, but with the (hopefully on the decline) ‘golden child’ of lobby groups wading in in all their glory, anyone raising an objection would be branded the worst of the worst human being, literally killing babies.

Teflon trans is what it is.

Bellasblankexpression · 22/09/2019 16:18

If three to seven year olds are so equipped to make important life decisions, why not let them get married, be in charge of their own food choices, get tattoos, etc etc

The world has gone utterly mad.

FannyCann · 22/09/2019 16:21

I believe our favourite woman’s officer said that they could have a baby.

I personally do not find it a coincidence that the Law Commission is working up to open up commercial surrogacy in the UK, with proposals to include lifting the current ban on advertising, allowing fixing agencies to charge, no upper limit on the number of surrogate pregnancies a woman can undertake and much more besides.

"Our project does not seek to examine whether or not surrogacy should be allowed. Instead, we take as our starting point that surrogacy is an accepted form of building a family, as recognised by the Department of Health and Social Care in the guidance it publishes on surrogacy arrangements:
The government supports surrogacy as part of the range of assisted conception options. Our view is that surrogacy is a pathway, starting with deciding which surrogacy organisation to work with, deciding which surrogate or intended parents to work with, reaching an agreement about how things will work, trying to get pregnant, supporting each other through pregnancy and then birth, applying for a parental order to transfer legal parenthood."

RaymondStopThat · 22/09/2019 16:23

Whenn I was at school, Terry was a boy who liked playing with the girls. He was kind and gentle, and not remotely interested in what were then considered male pursuits. My female best friend had an Action Man, climbed trees and had toy cars. This was in the 70s. Everyone just accepted each other as friends then, but I wonder if they had been born into this generation, Terry in particular would have been put under pressure by the trans movement?

I desperately hope the tide will turn and anatomical and physiological mutilation of our children stops.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 16:23

Oh I do think that the officer does actually think that they can have a baby pop out of their very own, ummm, errr... belly button?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 16:24

I was at school with a Terry and my sister was/is like your mate.

Terry is now married with loads of kids and my sister is just a boring lesbian.

Orangepearl · 22/09/2019 17:10

I agree I really think we are going backwards in society.

This Is not a free society where anyone can be anything, where girls can have short hair and boys can play with dolls.

It’s becoming very restrictive that if your different you must conform to some sort of accepted norm.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 22/09/2019 17:35

I know a family with a trans child of a similar age, also heavily involved with Mermaids.
The mother is very adamant that this is something that's coming from the child, but was very vocal on supporting trans issues when the child was a baby and later when they 'came out' mentioned that the child only liked the clothes/toys of the opposite sex. Now that the child is a few years older, she's claiming it had nothing to do with what toys they played with.
Its very clear to anyone paying attention why the child thinks they're a different gender.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 17:36

So what, these babies are telepathically saying ‘mummeeeee, I’m a boy trapped in a girls body... help meeeeeeeeee’? Is that it?

StopThePlanet · 22/09/2019 17:54

US (where soccer is very much seen as 'girls' game) boy into soccer

Where did you get that info? Lol it is completely untrue... soccer has (at least since I was a child) been a boys sport here in the US. We looked and looked for a soccer team for me when I was little to no avail (in multiple states from CA to FL). It isn't easy to find girls soccer leagues now 30+yrs later (have been actively helping my friends to try to find soccer leagues for a 7yr old and an 11yr old). And we live in a state that soccer can be played outdoors year-round (we only have about 10 days a year where the temp is under 75°F).

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 17:56

Compared to the the UK it is a girls game!

StopThePlanet · 22/09/2019 17:56

In regards to the article, I think that any parent that would endorse these lies to their unassuming undeveloped children are fucking garbage. It is child abuse. Full stop.

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