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Sheffield strip club keeps licence despite opposition by feminist coalition

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stumbledin · 18/09/2019 16:13

From the way the Guardian reports it (but does anyone think their reporting is unbiased) the undercover filming that campaigners organised has worked against them.

I think the licence will be reviewer again in a year. Have a horrible feeling that if it hadn't been "feminists" campaigning but "local" people the council would have acted differently. The patriarchy likes to be seen to slapping down uppity women.

They didn't even value the opinion of the local Rape Crisis Centre which works nearby. Sad

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/17/sheffield-strip-club-keeps-licence-despite-opposition-by-feminist-coalition

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LangCleg · 19/09/2019 17:32

Not believing people can change sex and transgender ideology does not equal being a radfem. You cannot support sex work as empowering and be a radfem. It's 101.

(I say this as a woman who is also not a radfem, although for reasons other than supporting sex work.)

Propertyofhood · 19/09/2019 17:32

As I said then - taking away all women's right to choose what to do for themselves. Can't think for themselves.

Meh, blokes seems to get on OK without these sorts of opportunities.

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 17:32

Fair point kittens. No I didn't, I think I was probably a little scared too Smile I think the focus on the night was all things trans. I'm honestly sorry I mentioned it now, I didn't want to upset anyone. I just wanted to show I'm not a mad MRA from America.

TinselAngel · 19/09/2019 17:36

a pole 30 feet in the air

Is this a strip club or a circus?

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 17:36

Hi Lang I'm not sure if that was to me but yes I'm definitely not a rad fem, hence my saying I'm a bad one. Sorry I should have been more clear.

Yes tits out is part of the job but I wouldn't say it's the defining part. It just read as very dismissive and quite rude.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 17:38

In the kindest possible way, what you see as the defining part and what your customers see as the defining part may be very different.

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 17:42

Totally agree kittens. Luckily I couldn't give two hoots what the customers think, I know that my ability to perform athletics is to ME far more defining than my ability to take my top off.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 19/09/2019 17:44

Naked breasts is not the defining part of being a lap dancer?

Uh...

MsMelanie · 19/09/2019 17:45

Didn’t a famous rad fem say that you also have to be a lesbian to be truly a feminist. That is to make a choice to be a lesbian rather than being born that way. Yes, she did actually say it and then put it in writing. I guess that didn’t make it into the rule book.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 17:46

Seems a bit unempathic to give no fucks about what the customers think, doesn't it? I mean, I don't care, but I'm not purporting to have empathy for them.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 19/09/2019 17:47

Hard to counsel someone if you don’t give a fuck what they think I’d have thought

TheAlternativeTentacle · 19/09/2019 17:48

'Yeah love, I'm off to the Strip Club tonight to see some expert sales techniques coupled with some totally on the button counselling. I'll be back around 2am, don't wait up.'

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 17:50

"Can I borrow the kids' trampoline? I'm a bit worried that if someone falls off the 30 ft pole they might get hurt since the floor isn't bouncy."

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 17:51

Oh I care about them in the sense that they are sentient beings that walk this planet with me. But luckily no I couldn't care less what they think of me getting my tits out.

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 17:54

I'm going to bow out as dinner calls but also because I feel like people aren't posting in good faith. If anyone is at all interested in how amazing the dancing is, watch on YouTube it's fab!

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 17:55

And apologies again if I upset anyone, genuinely not my intention

Wurzelsnewhead · 19/09/2019 17:55

Don’t forget the ballet and athletics. 😂
Olympic stripping. Strip club counselling for depression. Strip club performances of The Nutcracker. No wonder they call them ‘gentleman’s clubs’ - so refined.
Bit of a whiff? Oh yes, that’s the smell of all the bullshit on this thread.

RosesAndRaindrops · 19/09/2019 17:56

Oh I care about them in the sense that they are sentient beings that walk this planet with me. But luckily no I couldn't care less what they think of me getting my tits out

I'm with you on this one, that's how I read it.
(not that I get my tits out mind you, but I'd be of the view that we're all people and I never give a toss what people think of me either so if I did ever get them out I'd be of your attitude lol)
Best way to be.
Give no fucks what anyone thinks and be yourself is my motto.

Wurzelsnewhead · 19/09/2019 17:59

Just as well you don’t care Amongstthepigeonsas when they’re ogling your tits hanging out they certainly don’t give a monkey’ arse about you either. They probably don’t even see you as a sentient being either - has to be said 🙁

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 17:59

Strip club performances of The Nutcracker

See, this is why I'd fail the audition, management would presumably frown on attempts to transform it into a performance of The Nutkicker.

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2019 18:01

Omg stripping is athletics and sales. Omg

Is that why men go to see athletics 😂

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 18:01

Oh not at all kittens. You'd make a mint kicking nuts Wink

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 18:01

Coverage of the last Olympics would sadly indicate the answer is yes.

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2019 18:04

Really really

Men go to strip clubs to see athletics ?

Men go to strip clubs to see naked women. Dancing naked women

RosesAndRaindrops · 19/09/2019 18:04

They probably don’t even see you as a sentient being either - has to be said
Ooh, interesting - sounds like you see all men as being one big lump as well as all us women.
Pitted
Us
against
Them
all women exploited and not of sound mind if disagree (must have been brainwashed)
all men Big and Bad and Out to Get.
That kind of thing?
You have women on the thread happy with their choices, but on the other hand there's others who don't want women to have a choice.
Just because you're OK with that doesn't mean everybody else has to be.
We're all individuals