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Sheffield strip club keeps licence despite opposition by feminist coalition

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stumbledin · 18/09/2019 16:13

From the way the Guardian reports it (but does anyone think their reporting is unbiased) the undercover filming that campaigners organised has worked against them.

I think the licence will be reviewer again in a year. Have a horrible feeling that if it hadn't been "feminists" campaigning but "local" people the council would have acted differently. The patriarchy likes to be seen to slapping down uppity women.

They didn't even value the opinion of the local Rape Crisis Centre which works nearby. Sad

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/17/sheffield-strip-club-keeps-licence-despite-opposition-by-feminist-coalition

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CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 18:04

It's definitely not WHY the men come, but it's why people should.

This is what I'm arguing for, take the strip clubs away from the control of the punters and enable them to become an environment where the dancing skills of the women are admired not their naked tits. I know it's a big ask and it won't happen overnight but I live in hope

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 18:07

I live in hope that we'll stop climate change before the tipping point has been passed and all our descendents die. Mine is probably more realistic than yours. *

  • Is not actually realistic at all, as terrifying as that is.
Melroses · 19/09/2019 18:09

This is what I'm arguing for, take the strip clubs away from the control of the punters and enable them to become an environment where the dancing skills of the women are admired not their naked tits. I know it's a big ask and it won't happen overnight but I live in hope

It will be a long wait - take a flask Confused

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 18:09

You're probably right Kittens, it's a depressing thought.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 19/09/2019 18:09

enable them to become an environment where the dancing skills of the women are admired not their naked tits

do your tits have to be out so your dancing skills can be admired? just asking. because the simple solution does seem to be to keep your clothes on......

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 18:12

Is this like does a tree fall in the woods if nobody sees it? Does athleticism or counseling matter if it doesn't give a man an erection?

I feel like I got in a time machine and went back for a chat with Melissa Gira Grant.

PennysPocket · 19/09/2019 18:12

biological women

Are we using this now because males have stolen the word woman?
Do we now need the word biological before woman to differentiate between adult males and females Hmm

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 18:13

Maybe there are a bunch of cyborg or android women and that's who's on the 30 ft poles.

Propertyofhood · 19/09/2019 18:14

This is what I'm arguing for, take the strip clubs away from the control of the punters and enable them to become an environment where the dancing skills of the women are admired not their naked tits.

😂

Who exactly will be doing this 'admiring'?

RosesAndRaindrops · 19/09/2019 18:16

because the simple solution does seem to keep your clothes on
Women! Cover yourselves up!
I am on FWR, right?!

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 18:16

Everyone!!!! When I run the world admiring will be compulsory

Wurzelsnewhead · 19/09/2019 18:17

Ooh, interesting - sounds like you see all men as being one big lump as well as all us women.
Pitted
Us
against
Them

Oh Roses - you are funny 🤣😂🤣

TheAlternativeTentacle · 19/09/2019 18:18

This is what I'm arguing for, take the strip clubs away from the control of the punters and enable them to become an environment where the dancing skills of the women are admired not their naked tits. I know it's a big ask and it won't happen overnight but I live in hope

Would it not just be easier to ban Strip Clubs?

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 18:18

Instead of banning can't they evolve?

Courtney555 · 19/09/2019 18:19

Mmm, it’s about athletics and sales and getting your tits out. Other wise it’s gymnastics or cirque de soliel, as previously discussed. Let’s at least be honest about the point of strip Clubs shall we?

Hi there. I'm an ex dancer. Only stopped 4 mths ago, after over a decade career. Which I loved.

I get that you are describing what you personally think "the point" of strip clubs are. But maybe open your mind a little bit that maybe you've not got a better insight than people who've lived and breathed the industry.

I'm also an ACA qualified accountant. I quit that to be a full time dancer. I also hold a degree in business and finance, and another in marine biology. I'm not stupid, or exploited. In ten years of actual, real, experience I met no one who didn't love the job and do it out of pure choice. I'm making an absolute choice to pursue a job I loved, over a job that many people view as more acceptable/worthy/desirable/pc. Good for them. I'm far prouder of my dancing.

For the record. Which you'll all ignore, as per usual, because you obviously know what the job is far better than someone who's done it. Wonder if you'd tell me how to be an accountant having got no knowledge of that either. Having your tits out is sod all to do with it. Once you've got regulars, you often don't strip at all. I'm an ex gymnast too, which as a PP mentioned, plays a far bigger role in being a successful dancer. An hour in my company was £480. To think people pay this exorbitant amount to primarily stare at tits, when millions are there to ogle for free online, is both silly, and insulting to dancers. Believe me, if all I had was tits and the ability to flash, I'd make zero.

It's about rapport. It's about making people laugh. It's about being escapism. It's about being a borderline therapist. It's about extreme strength and athletic ability, to stop a whole room while they watch in awe as you spin round upside down by one foot, 20 odd feet in the air off a pole. It's about making people feel so great in your company that don't want the night to end. And believe me, to get them to pay over a thousand pounds for your company, it's an absolute skill.

I don't know where all these people get off telling me I needed saving, that I'm in danger. The audacity when they've got no actual experience on any of it but an opinion that's apparently far more relevant than mine. They tell me how I feel. Seriously, fuck off!

Go save who needs saving. There's always tonnes of us who point out we love what we do. And these bloody arseholes patronise us, "oh look, another happy hooker story." Literally how dare you. "Oh, there's always seems to be one of these strippers popping up to say how great it is.". At what point is it going to sink in that there's so many of us popping up because that's what 99.9% of us feel and we're fed up of this bull?????

No. Too busy being feminists who want to tell me I don't know that as a dancer, I don't know what dancers want.

Look up "Jaq The Stripper" and see the cartoons. She couldn't get it more right. But then, she's done the job. She actually knows what she's talking about.

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2019 18:22

Men go to strip clubs to see naked women. They pay to do it

They don’t just hope that women will strip. They know they will

Because they have paid to see the wome; take off their clothes

They are not going out on a date. They are going to see women take off their clothes for money that they have paid
So they can see women taking off their clothes

Trewser · 19/09/2019 18:23

I actually don't care if you genuinely love what you do. I would absolutely hate for any young girl to think it's a legitimate career. I don't want it to be normalised.

CuntAmongstThePigeons · 19/09/2019 18:25

Just echoing everything Courtney said. I wish people would listen to women who've actually done the job.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 18:25

Have I ever mentioned how much I love you, browndog? There'll be a bunch of people waxing lyrical about whatever wanky bollocks it is that day and then you'll stroll in and be the antidote.

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2019 18:26

Courtney weren’t you the accountant who had 2 degrees or did I get you mixed up with the accountant who got in a muddle with money laundering

Sure I seen you on another thread like this ?

Did I get you mixed up ?

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 19/09/2019 18:26

I don't really care if strippers are having a great time

(most really aren't by the way. and if the women in that spearmint rhino were taking home anything like £480 per hour, well, I'll be quite surprised)

women's bodies being comodified harms all women

in the same way as I wouldn't support the right of someone who sincerely wanted to sell their kidney, I'm not interested in the supporting the right of women to pander to male socialisation.

It's all right, we don't all have to agree.

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2019 18:27

Haha kittens. 😻
Thank you

littlbrowndog · 19/09/2019 18:27

Gtg get tea

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/09/2019 18:28

I have listened, to the ones I know IRL.

BarbaraStrozzi · 19/09/2019 18:28

Courtney weren’t you the accountant who had 2 degrees or did I get you mixed up with the accountant who got in a muddle with money laundering

Grin