Sheffield strip club keeps licence despite opposition by feminist coalition

[stumbledin]

From the way the Guardian reports it (but does anyone think their reporting is unbiased) the undercover filming that campaigners organised has worked against them.

I think the licence will be reviewer again in a year. Have a horrible feeling that if it hadn't been "feminists" campaigning but "local" people the council would have acted differently. The patriarchy likes to be seen to slapping down uppity women.

They didn't even value the opinion of the local Rape Crisis Centre which works nearby.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/17/sheffield-strip-club-keeps-licence-despite-opposition-by-feminist-coalition

Great news for the women who continue to work there of their own choice. Seems as though only a small proportion were breaking the rules and they have been dismissed.

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you have a right to take away someone’s income in a job they choose to do.

You will find that inclusive feminists support them and their choice.

If you don’t like it don’t visit.

Women trying to access Rape Crisis are being harassed and no one gives a shiny shit about them other than feminists, so your 'inclusiveness' is fake.

The rape crisis centre is a totally separate issue. It disgusts me that vulnerable women are subject to this in the same way that protesters picket women outside abortion clinics.

Great news for the women who continue to work there of their own choice. Seems as though only a small proportion were breaking the rules and they have been dismissed. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you have a right to take away someone’s income in a job they choose to do.You will find that inclusive feminists support them and their choice

All of what you just said

What the fuck has happened to this board?

The secret evidence showed multiple breaches of the club's licence and that the women were working in unsafe and Illigal environment. The management responded by dismissing the employees - who are working under direction from the (male) management who got off Scot free. Whats that - women blamed - well I never! Would your responce to the workers in a sweat shop exposed in the same way be the same? Yay how empowering that some women do unsafe jobs with shitty bosses in jobs that I would never consider doing? To those cheering this on have a word with yourselves.

OK the women chose to work in these places but they didn't make those choices in a vacuum. No one works in a strip club for fun they do it to make money you might ask yourself why they don't have other opportunities to support themselves or their families. Austerity has fallen on women (86% of cuts) and single mums in paticular. You should bear this in mind next time you bleat some more guff about "her choice."

The bat signal to the pimp and punter apologists seems to be broadcasting at extra strength tonight.

Penis inclusive feminism is not feminism.

I have more issue with the so called feminists who secretly filmed these ladies undercover. DISGUSTING SEX OFFENDERS

Barbara is right. It’s not that the general sentiment of this board has changed, but that the people likely to be posting here during UK overnight hours are less likely to be board regulars. (I am here—and some others around at this time are here—because we are in different time zones; not because we are not regular readers or posters. Still, caution is warranted. 😀)

You just do not want to listen to the women who do these jobs that you look upon in disdain. THEY don’t care what you think what you think about their work . They just want to get along with their lives and not have sticky beaks continuously threatening their livelihood.

What about the women at the rape crisis centre who don't want to feel unsafe? Don't they matter? Studies prove that rates of sexual assault and street harassment rise in the vicinity of strip clubs. Why should they face this type of abuse? Dont you think they've been through enough? Why should any woman in the vicinity face that type of harrassment for that matter?

Excellent decision. I fully support the dancers and I support their right to earn their living how they choose, without being dictated to and having their privacy violated by the self-appointed morality police.

I have more issue with the so called feminists who secretly filmed these ladies undercover

I thought similar on reading the article as in how is it ever OK to film people sexually without their consent?

You will find that inclusive feminists support them and their choice.

It's funny that someone wrote this thinking that it makes "inclusive feminists" look good.

(Waves at DJLippy)

Yep they’re certainly out on FWR tonight on a couple of threads.

MsMelanie - the ‘disgusting sex offenders’ are the reason why there is a rape crisis centre nearby.

That Sheffield Council sees fit to allow this strip club to continue to operate never mind so close to a rape crisis centre, speaks volumes about their contempt for women.

Filming these women as though they are some sort of animal rescue case to be exhibited against their consent is as bad as any sexual assault. I've lived that. And the women in that article are right. clients dont treat you this way. Clients have never violated my consent. But the "feminists" who filmed these women seem to believe they have to right to violate womens consent in this absolutely perverted, chilling way. At least the clients are open about their sexual deviance.

Still, caution is warranted
Yep they’re certainly out on FWR tonight on a couple of threads.
The bat signal to the pimp and punter apologists seems to be broadcasting at extra strength tonight

Why the incessant need on here to paint other viewpoints as big and bad people and try to scare the crap out of posters with bollocks like this shite?
I'm not an apologist for them atall, just a random boringly average person - I'm just never OK with people wanting to take away a woman's right to consent or think for herself like some seem to do on here.
We either have control over our bodies as an individual person or we don't, and you telling us what we have to or can't do with them is not much better than men telling us what to do with them to be honest.
I personally never would do it myself, but that doesn't mean it's OK to tell other women what they can and can't do or how they should be feeling.

Well said, @MrsDemeanor

Filming these women as though they are some sort of animal rescue case to be exhibited against their consent

That's exactly how it seems, well put.... just something urgh about that.

I have issue with so-called feminists who talk about certain groups of women ie sex workers but do not have the decency to speak with them.

@Wurzelsnewhead
No. The sex offenders are those who filmed the ladies in the club who are now been sued!

@RosesAndRaindrops

I agree with all that you say.

Also, if people on these boards all say the same thing then it becomes a mere echo chamber.

Mel Nope.
Whistleblowers is the word you’re looking for.

It's so fun when FWR becomes pervert apologist central after hours. And the wide eyed choosey choice 'feminists' just lapping up the astroturfing. It's all a bit embarrassing, really.

Whistleblowers is the word you’re looking for

How as a so called feminist can you be OK with people filming women sexually without their consent?
As said upthread, treating them like a rescue project, like they're not fully human, more like animals that need rescuing?
However you want to dress it up with euphemisms such as whistleblower to make it sound better, doesn't make it right.