Person in women's shelter boasts about spirting erection, shelter supports 'her'

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I posted this on the This Never Happens thread, but it's so horrible I think it deserves its own thread.

Canada of course.

Trans women posts about wandering around naked with an erection in a women's shelter(even providing the address of the shelter). They also appear to have mental health issues. Concerned women tweet the shelter. The shelter responds by asking people not to 'spread harmful mistruths' about trans people.

A women's shelter actually putting vulnerable women in danger. This is how far things have gone in Canada.

Please retweet. Women in one of the most unsafe neighbourhoods in Canada are forced to bunk up with an obvious predator. He gets amusement from exposing his male body to vulnerable women. Self ID hurts women. #dtes #vancouver @VancouverPD @VanRapeRelief #gendercritical t.co/GCJCAkGL8Z
by MNHQ to remove the Tweet containing the address of a women's shelter

I could actually explain exactly why they're so emotional, but it would take a lot of words and I'm worried I'll be accused of navel-gazing. I will try to be concise.

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Okay, I tried to be concise and it was massive.

The gist is: men externalise their emotions both onto and into us. Socialisation does this, because we don't socialise one another in a way that checks their tendency to do this. And in so doing they rob us of access to the words with which to express our intellect, because they tell us our words are invalid.

Fundamentally it's a lack of empathy. And it's socialised in.

Hang on - two posters are leaving MN as a result of this thread!? That would be a sad outcome indeed

DetroitLakes It very clearly read that Vancouver has a problem with looking after its citizens. I heard that they closed most of the mental health hospitals, the ones where patients are kept in and that’s why homelessness and those that are homeless seeming to be violent, is so prominent.

That's interesting tyro. It's ringing bells for something to do with attachment- like relying on mothers/women for containment.

And also projection- relying on others to express your feelings, because you can't express them yourself. When they see targeted hate in our questioning of a situation (changing rooms, refuges etc), it's because deep down they hate it themselves. Or something.

I quit my job at a domestic violence shelter after it was decided to include “any person defining themselves as female” into shelter.

Trans people should have the right to shelter from violence but not in a shelter full of women trying to heal from violence inflected on them by men.

dewc.ca/news/statement-concerning-recent-facebook-and-twitter-postings

What the actual hell am I reading?
Recently, the Downtown Eastside Women’s Centre has been inundated with transphobic messages
Safety concerns about males in female shelters are "phobic".
We are committed to women’s safety
NO YOU AREN'T

JFC!

Talk about doubling down - what the fuck are they thinking? I just don't understand!

And it's not just any kind of male person either. One that posts naked erection selfies online and posts about pitching a tent in the women's shelter. Yet they pretend this person is just one woman among others.

Unbelievable response.

It's like being trans is a teflon coating. NOTHING sticks, not even boasting about your naked hardon at a shelter.

wow, I don't understand how they can look at those posts and photo and say there is nothing wrong!

From the center's statement.

The Downtown Eastside Women’s Centre (DEWC) strives to provide a safe, secure non-judgmental refuge

You know, sometimes being judgemental is a good thing, such as when an obvious creep is creeping on women and gloating about it.

I'm going to say this very gently.

Homelessness is not caused as a result of lack of long term insane asylums. No doubt my damn husband would be gleeful at being able to lock me up in one. Thankfully those days have passed.

I'm beyond insulted. The sheer weight of the druggy, scary, crazy cliches of homelessness have made me break down in tears. It's not me, and not most of us in this position.

People need to sleep. There is no shame sleeping on a street. Not having a home does not make someone less human

My dignity has been assaulted along with my body.

I tried another state, some 1000 plus miles away. Their position is twaw. I was persona non grata. Apparently none of their residents have a problem with sharing with trans people with penises.

No. They are desperate for shelter so put up and shut up

Detroit I’m so glad you posted, was worried you might not come back. My own experience of supporting women in shelter, was that many had escaped from men for their own well being. Solidarity to you.

I’m sorry you can not access single sex spaces when you need them, I can hardly imagine what you are going through.

It feels like we almost need to start over. All the single sex spaces our foremothers built up have been taken over, we need to create new ones and protect them better.

Years upon years of violent assault and rape.

I'm in permanent pain physically.

"A safe place for survivors", that's shelter's site says. Really? With someone walking around with an erection and their pretendy boobs out, gloating about the fact that they're going to do that and nobody can stop them? That's "safe", is it?

Hey Detroit, just sending thoughts and support your way, wish I could do more xx

Nobody is saying this person is representative of all TW. Nobody.

They are male, tho. So they should not be in this space with a vulnerable female population. This is basic safeguarding.

Trans organisations are well funded and can afford trans-dedicated shelters. They are entitled to public funding too.

The current approach is an unbelievable betrayal of vulnerable women.

Detroit

Niceness shouldn't give men a pass into women's spaces.

I agree, it’s not about niceness. It’s about maleness. Safeguarding 101.

I'll say it then

This is absolutely representative of trans women and their collective masse feelings of utter entitlement. It's representative of the utter lack of concern for the actual women that they are mimicking.

Men's feelings above women's safety every fucking time

I'm not asking for pity. I baulk from talking about the abuse because im still scared. Tyler doesn't look very scared does he.

I really do appreciate people thinking of me, and the good wishes.

I do understand that a lot of people will unintentionally be hurtful because they absolutely cannot comprehend how someone could end up here unless they were crazy, drugged up or culpable in some way.

The possibility that it might not be absolutely controllable and might happen to them, must be terrifying.

I do understand that a lot of people will unintentionally be hurtful because they absolutely cannot comprehend how someone could end up here unless they were crazy, drugged up or culpable in some way.

I really think you are misreading what people are saying, and I wish you could see it another way, because they are not making the hurtful assumptions you are thinking.

No one here thinks people who are homeless deserve it, whether or not they are mentally ill. It is true that mentally ill people are especially vulnerable to housing insecurity and related problems and so they are represented among that population in higher than average numbers. It's a significant issue that people who work in those sectors are well aware of, you have to be both to try and get people to the right services, and to try and make the services safe for everyone.

Changes in care models for mental health have had an effect on the homeless population in many places, and in Vancouver in particular, government policies have affected the housing situation in other ways, so that many people, even in work, are unable to afford housing.

All of that is an indictment of the state or perhaps the community at large, not the vulnerable people who don't have a place to live.