Person in women's shelter boasts about spirting erection, shelter supports 'her'

[SunsetBeetch]

I posted this on the This Never Happens thread, but it's so horrible I think it deserves its own thread.

Canada of course.

Trans women posts about wandering around naked with an erection in a women's shelter(even providing the address of the shelter). They also appear to have mental health issues. Concerned women tweet the shelter. The shelter responds by asking people not to 'spread harmful mistruths' about trans people.

A women's shelter actually putting vulnerable women in danger. This is how far things have gone in Canada.

Please retweet. Women in one of the most unsafe neighbourhoods in Canada are forced to bunk up with an obvious predator. He gets amusement from exposing his male body to vulnerable women. Self ID hurts women. #dtes #vancouver @VancouverPD @VanRapeRelief #gendercritical t.co/GCJCAkGL8Z
by MNHQ to remove the Tweet containing the address of a women's shelter

Which always happens, and is in essence why females need female only spaces.

Which means eventually they'll win on the current shelters and toilet provisions and legal wossnames, and we'll have to start digging in again somewhere else. New shelters that aren't reliant on patriarchal funding is essential. Or new funding streams for old shelters that are prepared to dig in with us, of course.

I find it amusing that on a thread about how women are forced out of shelters, both of the homeless and domestic violence kind, there is a massive derail demonizing homeless people.

People without homes need to sleep. I'm sorry that a posters vacation was spoilt by homeless people messing up the scenery by doing so. I'm sorry some rude people were unpleasant, how do you know these people were homeless?

Did you judge them by looks? Smell? Or because you know homeless people are bad because in your mind all homeless have themselves to blame for their predicament?

I fled domestic violence. I could not find one shelter across three states in the US, that did not have people with xy chromosomes that identity as women, as either volunteers or residents.

I do not drink. I do not take drugs. I got shut out of bank accounts when I dared to leave.

I don't sleep on streets. I camp in campgrounds. I have a tent. Sometimes I fail to find camping with showers. Sometimes I look dischevelled. Sometimes I don't have enough to eat. I've been doing this too long now, because people like Mr hard on there have colonized women's spaces. And I then get to read that shit?

Thanks.

Hugs, Detroit. (And good to see you again. Hope things are okay at the moment. Have you got somewhere decent to camp? And how's the weather - is the temperature beginning to drop?)

This, people, this is what women are up against. A woman having to camp out as we head through Autumn and into Winter (which gets scarily damn cold in the USA) because delusional males with sexual fetishes are taking up spaces in women's shelters. And don't anyone dare try to tell me there's nothing sexual about this man's behaviour - he's boast about and taking photos of his erection while staying in a woman's shelter.

Hey Sister! I've a few possibilities opening up which might mean a housed fall to winter, if I can work a few things out. For now, it's more of the same. It's definitely colder, wetter and a lot less comfortable. Getting clean in outside showers is a bit chilly. But being housed with the likes of Mr Hard On and his 'tiddies' is not an option.

I wonder how many of these aggressive Vancouverites were men?

I'm by no means untypical of unhoused women.

And if anyone wonders why homeless people head to Vancouver or other such winter mild climate areas, they might want to see how long before someone would freeze to death in say, upstate Idaho. Survival and comfort level. If I'm still unhoused by October I'm heading south too.

Hey Detroit!

Nice to see you here, glad to hear you might have housing in the offing. Fingers crossed for you.

This, people, this is what women are up against. A woman having to camp out as we head through Autumn and into Winter (which gets scarily damn cold in the USA) because delusional males with sexual fetishes are taking up spaces in women's shelters.

When there are men's shelters, and we could easily get behind a campaign world wide to provide shelters specially dedicated to the care and centering of the Tylers of this world. Tyler does not need indulging in his choosy choices at the cost of women such as Detroit being forced out on the street.

I don't use cannabis. It is much stronger than it used to be, it ceased to be giggly and turned emotionally disturbing. It is used legally by a lot of people for health issues this side of the Atlantic.

It still doesn't make people violent delusionists. It may make someone hide in a corner crying, feeling like their heart might beat out their chest whilst eating all the food, yes. Take your clothes off posing with an erection in a women's shelter and threatening to poision the water supply, no.

Again, it's the superiority thing. Homeless, yuck. Dirty stoners, yuck.

The real enemy is the Patriarchy which emboldens men to behave in a way that puts their kicks and benefits first, whilst keeping women scared and marginalized.

I really couldn't give a flying fuck if someone's camping vacation is ruined by having to camp near me and my homelessness. I pay my way same as they do. I'm quiet within reason and quiet hours. I try find spots away from others, because they bother me with their whooping and partying. It doesn't stop them parking right next to me and turning on their generator blowing right into my site.

They are in my front room.

I also couldn't give less of a damn about someone being offended by homeless people smoking legal pot on the streets of the only place in Canada where winter won't kill them.

Yes, I'm grouchy. My injuries didn't heal up so well, I hurt all the time and I miss having a roof. Wouldn't you all be in this situation?

there is a massive derail demonizing homeless people

Can you quote where that has happened please? Because I did no such thing. I detailed my experiences of antisocial behaviour in Vancouver. These things happened to me. Any "demonisation" otherwise known as criticism, is directed towards how the situation there is being managed by a country and city that prides itself on its inclusiveness and liberality. A country who seems to believe they're Getting It Right and Leading The Way. It was an attempt to discuss a small facet of why the person this thread is about, may be getting away with their threatening behaviour.

FWIW I worked with the West London Department Of Old Age Psychiatry Team - though it probably has a different name now, for a number of years and many of our clients were elderly homeless people who I had personal dealings with on a daily basis. I'm not speaking about something I don't know anything about and I am demonising no one.

I'm working on housing, and have sympathetic help to try and get me where I need to be to get legal help to try and at least get my share out of the marriage. Marriage is a sham. It doesn't protect any woman. Marriage is slavery.

There are good people out there.

If it doesn't work out, it's not going to be from lack of trying.

Hey Carol, you worked with older people experiencing homeless, and still show a total lack of understanding and empathy?

We're you disgusted by them too?

Hey Detroit! nice to see you here.

I know that you are one of the many women damaged by this policy of accepting males into women's shelters, and I am sickened by it

Carol, did you consider the maleness not the homelessness of the people you encountered to be the reason why they felt entitled to behave in the way they did. You mention one of them was a man. You didn't mention the sex of the others.

It is disengenuous of you to backpedal.

Criticizing the people you met in Vancouver, blaming lack of housing for the issues which spoilt your vacation, when you have no idea of their housing status, and conflating substance abuse and homelessness is indeed demonizing.

People like you don't get any more of my energy.

Detroit, I honestly think Carol was commenting the failure of social policy in Vancouver/Canada for the homelessness she witnessed, rather than demonising them personally, but I'm sure Carol can speak for herself. That's how I read it, though. Of course, we in the UK have a horrific homelessness problem too - austerity has bitten hard

Hi zebras, I heard the batshitcrazy signal and couldn't help but use some energy to stop by.

Carol is typical of people who are drawn to work with the homeless. I think they get kicks out of being able to feel so superior.

Sorry zebra, that's not how it read to me.

Wait, he's claiming that weed is what makes him want to force random women to check out his morning wood? The only thing it's ever "forced" me to do is eat an entire giant bag of crisps in one sitting and then babble about something I once saw on TV that I'm sure my SO saw too even though he claims not to remember watching it with me.

The female socialisation given away in the staff's response of 'we know Tyler well' says so much: I very much doubt a woman behaving in this way would elicit the same protective response.

If they know him well then why is he still there? "We had no idea" would be an excuse (a shitty one), this is just straight up "and we either don't care what he's doing to the other residents or we're scared that if we try to do anything about it we'll get fired".

I'm tired of every single space for women being transformed into an impromptu brothel for fetishists.

@Michelleoftheresistance word! (In complete agreement)

No worries, Detroit I just can't believe we're at the stage where women, including survivors of domestic violence, are literally suffering homelessness because women's services are allowing males over the threshold. It's a disgrace.

To be fair, the hostel probably doesn't have a rule about women walking around naked with erections, so Tyler probably hasn't broken it.

There is research (this is a meta-analysis of 35 studies) that suggest a possible link to psychotic illness from cannabis use.

www.nhs.uk/news/mental-health/cannabis-linked-to-psychosis/

Another study on psychotic illness and cannabis. Worth noting the THC content between 'old school' hash and the latest, high-potency strains.

www.nhs.uk/news/mental-health/daily-use-high-strength-cannabis-increases-risk-psychosis/

I'm pretty sure it's PCP not cannabis which makes people want to chop their dicks off.

Second thoughts, most of them keep their penises. Maybe it is all cannabis's fault, not the Patriarchy and misogynistic backlash against feminism.

Totally makes sense.

All we have to do is ban pot again, throw a load of people in jail for it, and all will be peachy.

I'm linking to evidence, Detroit, make of it what you will.

We have locally had a horrific rape and murder of a young girl relatively recently with links made to high strength cannabis use of the murderer, so you'll forgive me if I don't engage further with your arguments.

Good to see they haven't beaten you down yet, Detroit. I've been thinking of you.

Wait, he's claiming that weed is what makes him want to force random women to check out his morning wood?

Um.

Not to be in any way excusing this individual's behaviour, because there's a reason all the noun-replacements that spring to mind seem to relate to male genitalia in my head, but.

Point of clarity, from someone who's done a great deal of data-gathering in this area.

I dunno what the weed was like back before the dawn of my personal time, but these days you basically get three types. There's your trippy weed, your horny weed, and your smack you round the back of the head with a half brick in a sock weed.

Some strains will intensify an existing Urge rather more than other strains.

Thirdpersonsingular's picked up on that and is blaming the weed instead of acknowledging the Urge was there first.