Spinster.xyz

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Hello FWRs

Has anyone signed up to spinster.xyz yet? It’s like twitter but without the misogyny. No banning for stating biological truths. See you over there hopefully

Thank you for this thread.

I'm now happily fan-girling all the women I miss from twitter - and hearing what women say when they don't have to conform to talk guidelines.

I love this board, I've learned so much, and am grateful for it. Will be nice to be able to call a Y a Y, though

Is there a list somewhere of all the GC women banned from Twitter, please? That was my main reason for signing up to Spinster, because I miss their voices, but I'm sure I've not remembered them all - I only seem to be following a small number of them and I'm sure there were loads more kicked off Twitter.

women banned from twitter - I think Glinner has been documenting this at glinner.co.uk/the-disappeared/ - also has the weekly updates of the war on women - but no index - very confusing @Glinner

I've had not problem getting spinster to come up on google etc., (when this thread also comes up). I think most app producers wont bother with what is to them a relatively small number of users - but maybe in time.

I'm still lurking there as quite honestly I am disappointed with it. After the wonderful fact of a woman putting her money into a platform that provides a space for women to talk together and organise, 90% of the posts are just boring reports of stupid men on twitter. Really who cares. I know some women got led down the rabbit hole into thinking it was important to somehow engage with infantile men, but really in the scheme of things, giving all the issues women are having to deal with, do we really have time to waste on school yard show offs.

If an outsider was to join spinster in the hope of engaging with feminists / feminism they would be left bewildered by just how apolitical it is.

Just hope that soon women will start using it in a proactive, pro woman way, and not as some daily score card of how many men they engaged with. Quite odd really when so many were cross about men being on spinster and then they spend their whole time reporting and talking about men.

I can see a lot of different issues being raised, but maybe the problem is there are too many and they get lost in the flood. Twitter never was great for in-depth discussions and this is like Twitter. It's still incredibly valuable being able to speak freely though.

Maybe people are still detoxing after Twitter and getting it out of their system... hopefully in time things will settle.

I wouldn't use it for serious debate (or getting involved in current interpersonal rows). And you need "civilian" traffic to bring others on board - FWR will always be best for this.

But for mucking about with other women I like and not walking on the eggshells of offending the sensibilities of coercive control stalkers?

BRILLIANT.

I reckon as well it gives people a chance to reply to Twitter TRAs who'd block them if they did it there. Sometimes that can be cathartic.

What is the fediverse?

I looked, and winced.

It's where they put the naysayers? A sort of vortex for inches?

I wouldn't use it for serious debate (or getting involved in current interpersonal rows). And you need "civilian" traffic to bring others on board - FWR will always be best for this.

But for mucking about with other women I like and not walking on the eggshells of offending the sensibilities of coercive control stalkers?

BRILLIANT.

Absolutely my experience of it Lang. But yup, general fediverse feed... um, no. Maybe 1 post in a hundred is from a sane board saying something reasonably sane... but most of the stuff. Just no.

I am not sure how you express it technically but fedishpere is the wider web hosting facility that believes in free speech. This mean it has many odd groups on it, and worse racists and ....

So spinster being there is a bit like having to read the Daily Mail or Times to get a women's view of trans issues.

I haven't looked at fediverse but so long as spinster stops any of them entering spinster it is not unlike travelling on a bus finding yourself next door to some nutter muttering about perverts or refugees, etc..

re my comments about twitter - my worry is that a lot of women who joined initially are now dropping out as they just dont want and dont like the tone of the twitter rants.

Its like setting up a quiet zone and somebody insisting it is there right to come and shout in there.

stumbledin I wonder if part of how one reacts to it is luck of the draw as to who you end up following/getting involved with threads on? There's nothing at all systematic about it, so I think it is luck. There's some obvious people to follow (DrFondofBeetles, Meghan Murphy, Lang etc.) but other than that everyone is unknowns.

I've blocked obvious trolls/screenshot harvesters/general not-in-good-faith posters. And backed away from the obvious spats between well intentioned people who've fallen out with each other. And am simply avoiding some posters who set off my "something not quite right" radar. But conversely, I've found some really interesting women to talk to.

And the end result is, counter-intuitively, I'm talking far more about mainstream feminist issues - the stuff we were allowed to talk about before every conversation became a rear-guard action defending ourselves against interlopers.

So - sexual violence, the Nordic model, women in music, the HRT shortage, women's body issues... For me it's feeling like being on FWR 7 or 8 years ago. Before we got innundated by disrupters. Before we had to self-censor everything we said. I'm having a lovely time over there.

Me too Barbara! Today I’ve talked about women’s sports, period leaks and how we manage ruining clothes or sheets, HRT, menopause clinics and the low-value society places on full time mothers. All without needing to worry about ridiculous things like misgendering or tone policing by mods. It’s so refreshing.

BTW for anyone on there - beware that the mute/block functions may not work quite as you think it does. They stop stuff showing up in your feed, and stop people replying to your posts, but they don't stop people from being able to see what you're doing. So nothing is ever truly hidden (even if you think it is).

Okay may give it another go. Haven't logged on for a while as it was just endlessly non interesting.

But then I did wonder how I ever found anyone on facebook I became "friends" with.

But with short amount of time this board structure on mumsnet makes it much easier to take part - and learn. Rather than spending an hour readings "gabs"(?) that had no interest for me at all!

Thanks for the Glinner link, stumbled, that's what I needed

Just reading a discussion about the menopause and discovered gussiegrips, who’s a pelvic health physio.

And there’s lots of animal photos.

So I’m happy.

I joined. Seems like a great idea and has some excellent voices.

We've just got to work out a way to dump the toxics fast, before they can pollute the whole place. So far, it's okay.

Is it really educated people talking there ?

I kinda worry it might be and I wouldn’t fit in

Quixote I'm using the block/mute functions for people I think are toxic. Of course it doesn't help other people and as a group we haven't quite built up the sense of knowing and trusting one another sufficiently to give each other heads up about disruptors. But I think most people are savvy enough to spot the obvious entryists pretty quickly, and cautious enough (after all, many of us are coming to Spinster off the back of Twitter bans) to know there are wolves in sheep's clothing out there. That's what I'm hoping at any rate.

It's a mix, Little. There are definitely some women who are really bright and want to talk theory. But there's a lot of women just chatting about stuff in general.

littl you might believe yourself uneducated but I hope you don’t think uneducated means stupid.
If that’s how you see yourself, it’s not how you come across. You are far from stupid and your short pithy answers definitely help me to take a breath and laugh because you’re accurate and very funny with it.
I’m sure you’ve stopped me posting bannable content more than once

If that’s not what you meant - then I’m an arse lol

Yes, secondin Girl's comment (and I should have said that in my post): don't do yourself down, LBD. Your posts are always incisive and you have a knack for cutting through the crap, and an infallible bullshit detector for realising when a poster is using a string of fancy words to cover up the fact that they have no argument. If that's not intelligence, I don't know what is!

I’m not an academic and I don’t feel out of place. Only had one weird interaction with a GC feminist repeatedly calling me a troll on a thread about not appreciating full time mums 😂 which was funny. Otherwise it’s been all-good.

Prion who’s a pelvic health physio. she was on here ages ago!