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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 3.1

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GirlDownUnder · 12/08/2019 13:44

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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NotBadConsidering · 30/08/2019 07:51

Yes, Joss posted about LisaVito and openly admitted to posting and trolling on MN before Joss’s account was suspended, admitting which post was theirs. For some reason other people seem to think their open discussions on the internet about their trolling of MN should be private.

testing987654321 · 30/08/2019 07:58

I am really confused about what they are trying to achieve. It strikes me as similar to an interviewer playing devil's advocate to get interviewees to explain their position clearly.

It's not disruptive, it just makes the gender critical viewpoint get thoroughly tested and the arguments refined.

LangCleg · 30/08/2019 08:10

Thank you thisters, for cavalry services.

TinselAngel · 30/08/2019 08:22

would just like to point out I'm not the one trolling people on other accounts and posting there identity outside mumsnet.

Bespin only the other day you posted a photo of Yara Greyjoy with your own name written on it. You outed yourself.

littlbrowndog · 30/08/2019 08:24

Why would people want to do this

Why not just be upfront. About what you are trying to do here

It’s a totally weird thing to do then boast about it where everyone can se
Just weird

ThighThighOfthigh · 30/08/2019 08:29

Oh Lung you're so versatile ❤

DickKerrLadies · 30/08/2019 08:35

would just like to point out I'm not the one trolling people on other accounts and posting there identity outside mumsnet.

Don't worry Bespin, we can all see what's going on.

I can understand why you'd want to distance yourself from the misogyny of deliberately and repeatedly trolling* a group of women for shits and giggles. Thinking of the optics and all that.

*Is it still troll hunting when the troll openly admits doing so?

TheLidoOfThighs · 30/08/2019 08:41

GirlDownUnder unfortunately since losing our Australian agent we’ve had supply problems with the kind of upside down brain that you’d need.

TheLidoOfThighs · 30/08/2019 08:43

Bespin you could head over to the baby names board for inspiration.

LangCleg · 30/08/2019 08:45

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

zebrasdontwearbras · 30/08/2019 08:52

Put me down for one of the Aussie upside down brains please - might help me understand the trans-ideology.

CharlieParley · 30/08/2019 08:55

On second thoughts, Thisters, I might just keep my brains. The better to argue with those who drive me round the bend. It is a close call though, I will be honest. Feel like I've fallen into a real life AIBU...

As for the community disruptors - there's what? About a few hundred posters on FWR, many times that number in lurkers and a few haters think by shitposting on a few threads on one MN board, they can disrupt Mumsnet? With all due respect to our diligent posters here, there is so much more to the site than FWR. Mind you this seems to betray the same kind of narrow thinking that leads to outrage that mums should be discussing women's sex-based rights at all. Or that women who aren't mothers might be here. Or that we might actually have brains (that is unless we've donated them to the organ bucket).

ErrolTheDragon · 30/08/2019 08:59

Is it still troll hunting when the troll openly admits doing so?

More like troll spotting, I suppose. But still best to stick to MN rules and silently report rather than engaging with this puerile 'fun'.

I get the impression from that screenshot upthread that J.P. thinks it's remarkably clever to know how to make multiple MN accounts. It isn't, not even slightly.

TheLidoOfThighs · 30/08/2019 09:03

Cleverness is all relative Errol.

Weezol · 30/08/2019 09:09

I don’t go anywhere near the baby names thread's - I wouldn't be helpful at all. My default response of 'You're calling your kid what? Have you no foresight or conscience? It'll be 'cute' until the age of three, but after that?' is not what heavily pregnant women need or want.

Oh look, I'm attuned to what women might need or want and shut the fuck up and stay in my lane. Is my female socislisation showing?

NotTerfNorCis · 30/08/2019 12:55

Loving the indignant frothing over on Twitter. "@TwitterOpen what are you doing about this continued pattern of behaviour by the twitter moderators?" So preachy.

Bespin · 30/08/2019 12:57

Bespin only the other day you posted a photo of Yara Greyjoy with your own name written on it. You outed yourself.

that is very true lol, but who does not like yara 😘

GirlDownUnder · 30/08/2019 13:42

So Bespin don't leave us in suspenders - what'd your mate do to get a Twitter time out?? I thought Joss was on the right side?!

Is Joss not a beloved twitter personality?!

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littlbrowndog · 30/08/2019 13:46

Haha girl. Yeah what happened there on twitter with prior

Themyscira · 30/08/2019 13:59

Hoisted by one's own petard?

Outdone by one's own hubris?

One of life's great mysteries I suppose.

TruthOnTrial · 30/08/2019 14:49

woman of a certain age such as yourself doesnt want to go over-estimating the strength of her gusset

Can someone explain this to me, or I might have construed it incorrectly.

Strength of gusset, as in, to withstand some sort of force?

LangCleg · 30/08/2019 15:32

Gusset envy, I put it down to.

TruthOnTrial · 30/08/2019 16:07

It sounded like a rapey threat to me Lang. i.e. cotton ceiling.

Similar to the thread where there was the threat that 'we are touching women in the toilets without them knowing' recently.

Its good to see this in full and plain sight to all.

Ordinarily such posts should be reported and deleted, but better lurkers and all, see the unveiled threats.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/08/2019 16:27

Can someone explain this to me,

No, I think you're looking for sense where there was none.

TruthOnTrial · 30/08/2019 17:00

Gusset envy

😂 Yes! Indeed, that does make a lot of sense.

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