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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 3.1

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GirlDownUnder · 12/08/2019 13:44

The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3438714-Bunbury-s-Public-Service-Announcement-2

Thread 3 was deleted with this note from MNHQ; We're sure there will be a Bunbury 4 around soon, but we'd be grateful if we could draw a line under the issues raised in this thread if there's to be a new one.

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links can be found in the first posts on thread 2 (linked above) but in essence FermatsTheorem recommended “that in the absence of a block/hide poster button, I suggest the following strategy (given that you're talking to the lurkers).

Do not name check the sealion. Instead, respond to a depersonalised paraphrase:

"It is sometimes erroneously suggested that blah. Blah is wrong for the following reasons (short and pithy). If you need more information re. debunking blah, here's a link."

Then (this next step is important to combat derailment) go back up thread to the last useful contribution to the discussion, make sure you do name check that contributor, and pick up the discussion from that point.”

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TinselAngel · 25/08/2019 17:35

What was the message, anything exciting?

It was something along the lines

TinselAngel · 25/08/2019 17:36

Pressed send to soon

Along the lines of "we're not sure of this person's motivations for posting so we're going to have a look behind the scenes"

picklemepopcorn · 25/08/2019 17:41

Ah, thank you. I could have a guess as to his motivations...

LangCleg · 25/08/2019 19:04

Not the grey rock bit?

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Cascade220 · 25/08/2019 19:13

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Cascade220 · 25/08/2019 19:14

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LangCleg · 25/08/2019 19:21

Oi Lang, you nicked my tissues

I left you your grey rock. What more do you want?

picklemepopcorn · 25/08/2019 19:22

Thank you Spartacus!

By the way, Thanks for everyone who hangs in here despite the frustrations and carries on highlighting the issues. And Thanks for everyone who is so cheesed off they are going elsewhere.

I wouldn't be a feminist, would have no idea women were under fire, had it not been for all of you.

JessicaWakefieldSV · 27/08/2019 12:08

It is possible to make excellent posts within the rules, posters like Lang, Datun and Barracker do not water down their message, but they show us how we can post within the rules. Use them as role models!

I just picked this up. On the thread I got a final warning on, I did! In fact Datuns comments to 2boys on the faircop thread are not unlike mine and it remains and no warning. IMO it depends on the mod and who the user is, the more popular known users will be noticed if absent and MNHQ wouldn’t delete you all or this board would go quiet and so would ad revenue. I’m actually gobsmacked now I’ve gone back to that thread that I got a warning from it, within the context of the thread my comment was mild.

GirlDownUnder · 27/08/2019 14:02

Hey Jessica please have a look at a thread I’ve started in Site Stuff...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3674784-Deleted-posts-Suspension-warnings-FWR?

I think your point is valid and helpful.

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CharlieParley · 29/08/2019 03:07

Bumping to remind myself. Also GinBrew.

butteryellow · 29/08/2019 09:44

Sorry - just checking if I can post again - I wasn't able to for a couple of days......

GirlDownUnder · 29/08/2019 09:55

Joss is such an odd MN stalker. Poor chip, must not have too much going on their own life to be checking Site Stuff as well.

I’ve just been informed, so checked, and yep Joss has a whole TAAT.

What is it with the intense interest in MN?

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GirlDownUnder · 29/08/2019 09:57

Were you on the naughty step butteryellow?

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NeurotrashWarrior · 29/08/2019 16:35

This thread doesn't come up on 'threads I'm on.' Weird.

NeurotrashWarrior · 29/08/2019 16:36

Nope, still not there. Any explanation @MNHQ ?

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2019 16:41

Threads I'm on has been broken for ages hasn't it? I've given up on it and am using Watching instead.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/08/2019 17:08

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NotTerfNorCis · 29/08/2019 17:13

Watch out guys, your stalker has plans.

twitter.com/joss_prior/status/1167104761465884674?s=19

Ok so I'm thinking of setting up a group disruption of Mumsnet FWR.

If they point-blank refuse to moderate the abuse, I think thats carte blanche to have some fun.

I've been banned and popped back about 5 times in the past fortnight, so I know how to circumnavigate the bans.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/08/2019 17:14

Hopefully @MNHQ know about that and will indeed moderate all abuse.

Including abuse of their T&Cs.

NotTerfNorCis · 29/08/2019 17:17

My impression is Joss doesn't work and is desperate for attention.

Joss tried winding up people on Spinster but wasn't quite brave enough to go there under Joss's name, and I think that the free speech on there is a bit too much for the TRAs anyway.

LangCleg · 29/08/2019 17:27

It's me! Can't stay away from me, can you, Jossling? Hope you're keeping well!

Cascade220 · 29/08/2019 17:40

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BarbaraStrozzi · 29/08/2019 17:43

Is OfLang still stalking you on spinster as well, Lang?

LangCleg · 29/08/2019 17:45

Don't know! If so....