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Epstein is dead

154 replies

AlwaysComingHome · 10/08/2019 14:22

Jeffrey Epstein has apparently committed suicide.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-49306032

Can’t help feeling he has escaped from justice.

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Cohle · 10/08/2019 17:49

I'm normally very sceptical of conspiracy theories. But Jesus.

RedToothBrush · 10/08/2019 18:00

And a thousand conspiracy theories are born...

RedToothBrush · 10/08/2019 18:20

The associated press @ AP
BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter says. Follow AP’s full coverage

Bowlofbabelfish · 10/08/2019 18:24

I’m no fan of trump but there isn’t much evidence of him being linked to the dodgy stuff. They have met, and trump once kicked him out of mar e lago for perving on a waitress or something.... Clinton however...

So two possibilities. One: it’s a hit. The other possibility is that he’s actually in witness protection, which is far more interesting.

cushioncovers · 10/08/2019 18:32

How convenient that he 'killed himself' a lot of powerful people breathing a sigh of relief I guess.

justasking111 · 10/08/2019 18:38

Didn`t Epstein get off before because he did a deal with the FBI to be a snitch?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 10/08/2019 19:03

He had video footage of all those rich and powerful spotty arses bouncing up and down on some poor girl?

That was never going to end well for him. Hope he died in pain. However, I expect he's currently having some sort of facial surgery in Mexico.

SophoclesTheFox · 10/08/2019 19:29

What an extremely conveniently timed exit.

TurboTeddy · 10/08/2019 20:59

The other possibility is that he’s actually in witness protection, which is far more interesting.

It would gall me if he got to walk away without punishment, the only thing that would make it barely tolerable is if he's given enough evidence to take everyone else involved down. Typing that nearly choked me.

justasking111 · 10/08/2019 21:24

The potus has been silent on twitter for 8 hours not a peep about this.

Cobblersandhogwash · 10/08/2019 21:44

He was on suicide watch. Unbelievable.

I hope there's still evidence to nail whoever else is involved in this foul business.

HumberElla · 10/08/2019 21:57

I don’t believe he’s dead. Just as likely he’s been ‘removed’ by those who can’t risk being exposed. Or else he’s bought his way out, which would have been planned well in advance.

PerkingFaintly · 10/08/2019 22:34

I wouldn't be too quick to assume Trump is in the clear. Obviously now Epstein was just the covfefe boy, but previously...

However, in 2002 Mr Trump described Epstein as a “terrific guy” in an interview with New York magazine.

“He’s a lot of fun to be with,” the real estate mogul added. “It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-video-mar-a-lago-party-child-sex-trafficking-charge-a9008466.html

And IIRC, Trump didn't ban Epstein for "perving at a waitress" (come on, Trump is the man who openly admits sexually assaulting women). I think it was because Epstein targeted a woman related to a male Mar-A-Lago member who complained.Hmm You know, someone who mattered.

BelleHathor · 10/08/2019 22:56

Trump didn't ban Epstein for perving on a waitress. Trump banned Epstein from all his resorts because he came onto the young teenage daughter of a patron. As much as people may hate Trump,the victims lawyer said he was the only one that helped when they were trying to get people to testify 10 years ago.m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqb59n69Z80#

justasking111 · 10/08/2019 23:24

Trump has retweeted a post implicating the Clintons Shock

TurboTeddy · 10/08/2019 23:42

Conspiracies on twitter already. This is clearly a doctored tweet.

Epstein is dead
RosaWaiting · 10/08/2019 23:49

I can see with my own eyes that Dump has RTd that
And yet I’m still....OMD he really RTd that?!

PerkingFaintly · 10/08/2019 23:50

Well yeah. What's Trump gonna say? "That guy who gave Epstein the sweetheart deal – I appointed him to my cabinet"?

Hardly.

Campervan69 · 10/08/2019 23:50

This picture also doing the rounds on Twitter. Maybe he is in witness protection after all....

Epstein is dead
BelleHathor · 11/08/2019 00:15

Acosta did say in his press conference that he was leaned on and told to go easy on Epstein because Epstein belonged to intelligence / was a spy. The question is which intelligence service and could they have staged his suicide 🤔

Documents unsealed yesterday from the case against Ghislaine Maxwell , Epstein's ex girlfriend and alleged fellow Trafficker are here :
www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Giuffre-unseal.pdf

www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250478-Giuffre-Exhibits.html

assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250270/Sweet-Opinion-Unsealed.pdf

Bloomerpool · 11/08/2019 00:21

I've been reading about this all day, and I am so disappointed in some feminists. Can you please de-program yourself from this "conspiracy theory = bad" mind virus?

Trafficking involves conspiracy.
Organized crime involves conspiracy.
Elite pedophile networks and political blackmail operations involve conspiracy.
Conspiracy is a legal term, it is a prosecutable offense.

"Conspiracy theorist" as a derogatory and discrediting term was coined and promulgated by the CIA in 1967. They partnered with their friends in the media to respond to critics and rising distrust in the wake of the JFK assassination. The memo that lays all this out has since been released and is freely available for reference (Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report CIA Document #1035-960). Quite a brilliant stroke that, the agency tasked with carrying out conspiracies convinces the public it is shameful to theorize about them.

Think about it from another angle, feminists are supposed to care about trafficking victims, right? Do you think any victim of elite trafficking would feel comfortable approaching someone who cringes at the thought of "conspiracy theory"? Of course not. It's an intentionally planted and reinforced mind virus used to cover up black ops and human rights abuses, get rid of it.

As for Epstein, no, he was never going to willingly "talk". He has ties to intelligence, Acosta even admitted it. His death prevents discovery as part of the trial process. If you think the most powerful men on the planet were going to allow the victims to name them in legal proceedings, guess again. It was absolutely inevitable that something would stop the process. They already had people in place who've done the same sort of dirty work before, including Barr who is now in charge of the investigation into Epstein's death. It's all a big fat joke.

I mourn for his victims. I also mourn for the citizens of the US and the UK because their public officials were compromised and beholden to whomever Epstein was actually serving (besides himself) in his sexual blackmail operation.

Shalom23 · 11/08/2019 01:21

Julie Bindle ( sorry can't link,) tweet earlier that suicide watch in prison is not a 24 hr creche watch. It is a regular check so does not discount his death by suicide.

OvaHere · 11/08/2019 01:34

I saw that tweet but not sure I agree with her comparison to ordinary women prisoners on suicide watch.

Epstein was probably the most high profile prisoner in the US and key to potentially one of the biggest ever trafficking cases involving some very rich and connected people. I don't think you can compare the two differing circumstances. He absolutely should have been watched 24/7.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 11/08/2019 01:39

Yes agree Ova and the fact he was taken OFF suicide watch so soon after marks were found on his neck. It's so convenient for so many powerful people for him to have been left alone long enough to do this.

Coyoacan · 11/08/2019 01:41

Well said Bloomerpool.

Of course there are some lunatic conspiracy theories doing the rounds, but 9/11, for example, was obviously a conspiracy, whether it was a group headed by bin Laden or another.