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Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 06/08/2019 18:25

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JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 22:25

Just for the avoidance of doubt - there isn't a single lesbian on the planet who agrees that lesbianism includes males.

Very well said, Datun!

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 22:26

What you are saying is that only lesbians who agree with all trans ideology are welcome?

No I’m saying the only lesbians that were not welcome we’re those protesting against trans ideology at an LGBT march.

Just because they’re lesbians, doesn’t make them exempt from criticism.

No one hear genuinely believes the woman were not welcome because they were lesbians. You’re not idiots.

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 22:26

the behaviour of SOME lesbians means THEY were not welcome at Pride, not the entire whole lot of all the lesbians aren't welcome like some like to paint it as!

But men dressed in gimp masks involving almost attending in their sexual kicks are welcome.

But oh no, a lesbian who stands up for their own rights, nope, not welcome.

Datun · 06/08/2019 22:27

No one hear genuinely believes the woman were not welcome because they were lesbians. You’re not idiots.

Says the person who thinks 2 males having anal sex can be lesbians.

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 22:28

Just because they’re lesbians, doesn’t make them exempt from criticism.

No one said that. You are the one rewriting posts.

The women were protesting for their own rights, which are protected by law.

They werent protesting because they hate trans people and just want them to disappear. They dont want to lose their protections, to make biological males feel better.

If you dont understand the difference, it can only be because you are wilfully ignoring it.

So again, lesbians who wont except every blanket trans ideology is not welcome at pride.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 22:28

How can you speak for all lesbians though? It's clear that some do include transwomen as a lot condemned the protesters actions at Pride.
Not a single lesbian on the planet who agrees? How on earth would you know that? You're lumping them altogether.
As the Pride apparently stopped and some lesbians protested against GC protesting against trans, what you say is clearly blatantly untrue.

Datun · 06/08/2019 22:30

It's clear that some do include transwomen

Nope.

zebrasdontwearbras · 06/08/2019 22:30

No I’m saying the only lesbians that were not welcome we’re those protesting against trans ideology at an LGBT march.

Trans ideology is erasing lesbians at Pride then. Lesbians are out - unless they agree that males with penises can be lesbians too. Trans ideology is in.

And yet you don't understand why these women are trying to protect the definition of lesbian = female homosexual.

JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 22:30

No I’m saying the only lesbians that were not welcome we’re those protesting against trans ideology at an LGBT march.

ROFL.

So, the women who refuse to capitulate to the lies that are "transgender ideology" are unwelcome at Pride?

The women who refuse to capitulate to the fictitious notion that humans can change sex are unwelcome at Pride?

Even UK law acknowledges that no human can ever change their sex!

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 22:30

Just for the avoidance of doubt - there isn't a single lesbian on the planet who agrees that lesbianism includes males.

Plenty of lesbians are open to dating trans woman, as is evident by their signs and protests.

It’s not up to anyone else to say who should sleep with who and who is this or that. Just live and let live.

Telling lesbians they must sleep with/date someone is wrong.

Telling woman they’re not real lesbians if they include transwoman is another way of you telling woman what to do.

Both is misogyny.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:31

finally found the flag.

it's leather pride. so nothing to do with pedophilia. are we all happy it's not a pedophilia float now.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 22:32

Plenty of lesbians are open to dating trans woman, as is evident by their signs and protests

Exactly, it's THERE, however much people nope.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:32

here's all the flags

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Datun · 06/08/2019 22:33

Plenty of lesbians are open to dating trans woman, as is evident by their signs and protests.

Nope. And "misogyny". Hilarious.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:33

hopefully

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zebrasdontwearbras · 06/08/2019 22:33

Nobody's speaking for all lesbians. Lesbians by definition are female, and same-sex attracted.

That's what language does - provides us with definitions, and meaning. These women are protesting the meaning of lesbian being changed to include biological males.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:34

So many flags so little meaning

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 22:34

So you're still saying nope even though there's pictures you can presumably see with your own eyes of protest signs?
Ookay.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 22:35

Nobody's speaking for all lesbians

Datun just did though in case you missed it

JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 22:35

Plenty of lesbians are open to dating trans woman, as is evident by their signs and protests.

ROFL .. such women are heterosexual or bisexual ... they are never lesbians!

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:36

So many flags so little meaning

only if you choose not to allow others the right to there own self expression.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:36

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Aspley · 06/08/2019 22:36

It's unbelievable that lesbians are being critisised for being homosexual and proud of it.
People in this thread defending what happened should be ashamed of themselves and need to give their head a wobble.
Sexuality is based on sex. Lesbians are female homosexuals.
If you are of the male sex, or have sex with someone of the male sex: YOU ARE NOT A LESBIAN
#nodebate
It's about time lesbians got together and take on Stonewall, call them out on their utter betrayal of us all.

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 22:36

Pride is for L G B T

If you go there to protest against one, careless of weather your a member of one of the other three, you are unlikely to be welcomed.

For example - im black, if I go to a BAME March and protest against Asian culture, there’s a high chance I’ll be told to piss off despite the fact I’m Entitled to be there as a black person. I’m not exempt from being told to leave because I’m part of the cstagory it’s aimed at if I show intent to exclude and alienate others.

I understand fully why lesbians may feel trans ideology harms them. I’m not getting into a debate over that. But pride embraces trans individuals too.

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 22:36

If a woman is happy to be penetrated by a penis (lady dick or otherwise) they are not a lesbian, no matter what they might say.

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