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Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 06/08/2019 18:25

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Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:36

also one of them is the lesbian flag don't be dissing the lesbians on here it will not end well.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:36

Oh haha bespin wtaf does that even mean

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/08/2019 22:37

Exactly that EarlyWalker

Datun · 06/08/2019 22:37

Indeed I am. No lesbian is attracted to males. None. Not one. If they are, they're bisexual.

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 22:37

it's leather pride. so nothing to do with pedophilia. are we all happy it's not a pedophilia float now.

Jesus. That was dealt with on the last thread people, who said it was, have accepted it wasnt a MAP float.

Again, since you seem to be wilfully ignoring the point. Early kept using the protesters shouting at that float as proof of what the protesters did wrong. It wasnt a MAP float. It was only a fetish float. Which has nothing to do with sexual orientation. So why you or early, think that's same as saying lesbians cant attend unless the bed to trash ideology isnt anywhere near the same

Personally, I think engaging the general public, including, children in your fetish is wrong. And there is a word for it. But no TRAs want to say that word.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:37

You on the laughs again bespin 😂

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 22:38

Stop conflating sexuality with race - it's not the same thing and it makes you look bad.

Wishihad · 06/08/2019 22:39

im black, if I go to a BAME March and protest against Asian culture, there’s a high chance I’ll be told to piss off despite the fact I’m Entitled to be there as a black person. I’m not exempt from being told to leave because I’m part of the cstagory it’s aimed at if I show intent to exclude and alienate others.

What part of Asian culture and ideology is erasing the legal protections put in place for you?

It's not even a similar example.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:40

oh mumsnet tactic number eight you don't take this seriously enough. it's very importent thst this forum be serious no jokes unless there about trans woman. please take it seriously.

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 22:41

I think some parts Asian culture is harmful to woman. But I won’t get into that.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:41

littlbrowndog

no just loving my life, you have to enjoy what you do are why do it really if its not giving you something.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:42

What ?

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:44

sorry you asked if I was on the laughs I thought you wanted a answer that's all.

RedDogsBeg · 06/08/2019 22:44

Ones who protested at trans people? At LGBT parade?
Why can you not see that's where some were apparently not welcome?
It has nothing to DO with the fact they're lesbians, and everything to do with they're protesting at trans people

Okay, I think I've got it:

Lesbians who protest at Pride for their rights are somehow protesting trans people and are not welcome at an event in support and celebration of homosexuals.

Lesbians who protest for the factual legal definition of lesbian at Pride are somehow protesting trans people and are not welcome at an event in support of and celebration of homosexuals.

Glad you have finally admitted which 'lesbians' you consider welcome or worthy of support RosesAndRaindrops, EarlyWalker and Bespin and weirdly it isn't the ones laws have been enacted to support and protect.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:47

ya see if they only stayed at just saying that, but they don't they talk about other things and trans in general at that point there not just defining who they are, they are advocating against trans people.

zebrasdontwearbras · 06/08/2019 22:47

I understand fully why lesbians may feel trans ideology harms them. I’m not getting into a debate over that

That's very odd, because that is the reason the women were there protesting. So you're understanding why those lesbians feel trans ideology harms them but you won't discuss it, and appear to think those women were somehow wrong to assert their same sex sexual orientation at Pride.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:48

I support lesbians, I have a lot of firends who are lesbians they support me fully and see no issue with trans woman.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:49

Yeah bespin I know but it’s kinda disappointing tbh but hey

Trohmaniac · 06/08/2019 22:49

Where? Where are they advocating against trans people? At one point, the speaker says 'look at all you beautiful trans people - we love you'. How are they advocating against trans people?

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JackyHolyoake · 06/08/2019 22:50

Glad you have finally admitted which 'lesbians' you consider welcome or worthy of support RosesAndRaindrops, EarlyWalker and Bespin and weirdly it isn't the ones laws have been enacted to support and protect.

Very well said @RedDogsBeg.

Exactly so, the only women who accept sex with males are bisexual or heterosexual women .. they are never lesbians.

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:51

Yeah bespin I know but it’s kinda disappointing tbh but hey

I know I'm so sorry about that.

littlbrowndog · 06/08/2019 22:52

Yeah

Bespin · 06/08/2019 22:52

Jacky's back, anything else insightful to add?

Earlywalker · 06/08/2019 22:53

Asked earlier but I’ll ask again -

Why do you care so much that the equality act doesn’t cater to transwoman or trans woman who identify as lesbians? Do you want them to face discrimination and get no legal protection?

Or are you raising awareness that it should extend to them, to ensure everyone is protected from discrimination?

Or do you think that somehow by including trans lesbians in discrimination laws, means lesbians will no longer be protected? And if so, how?

Don’t be so manipulative red, it is obtuse to suggest these woman were not welcome because they are lesbians. But since you all continued to push that narrative, we’ve said that out of the thousands of lesbians there - only 8 were told to leave. They said things like ‘trans ideology harms lesbians’ at a protest that also caters to trans people. It’s not rocket science.